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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 07:03 AM
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Hey everyone,

so another update!!

I am going t-56. ...... but I have a ton of questions about it still. ( I've read online170's thread)

What is the best crossmember to go with ( that wil fit my long tubes)
What is the best year to get a t56 from? i have to use an LT1 T-56 or can a LS1 t56 be used?
What should I buy new and what is ok to buy used?
What clutch do people like the best ( or even how do i pick out one?)
Can I use my tq arm or do I need a new one?
What shifter to go with ?
Would it be cheaper just to get a parts car?
As soon as I get a 100% full parts list for this swap I will start buying part. ( dont have the full amount needed yet....but working to get the money)



I want to do this swap smart and right the first time, with good parts( or even the best if i can afford em) that will hold up.

should I buy all the small things fisrt or the t-56?

Thank you all in advance. I am exited if all of you tgo'ers have not figured it out!

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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 06:23 PM
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Anyone?
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Old Nov 6, 2012 | 06:26 PM
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im of no help other than try to search. i think new2chevy did a lt1 t56 swap you could possibly use for reference.
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Old Nov 7, 2012 | 08:18 AM
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^ I have been searching, I just do not know where to look, and get the infomation I need. I constantly am on tgo reading and searching. I've herd ppl say that they use ls1 t-56's but I am looking to do this swap to the best of my abilities and my income.

I do not want to blow this t56 up with in a year. So I am trying to find the proper parts that will work with the my current set up.
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Old Nov 8, 2012 | 07:54 AM
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So I am going to go with a lt1 t56 I think
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Old Nov 9, 2012 | 07:39 AM
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Going to the junkyard tomirow to pick up afew thing. What can I grab for the swap that can be used from the bone yard.
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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 09:56 PM
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Other than what I PMed you, I would try to find the console lid and get a rubber boot to keep the exhaust out of the car for when you cut the hole for the shifter. Those are the 2 things I still need to get a hold of to finish mine.

All your sensors from your Automatic pedals will transfer to the 4th gen pedals. I ordered all the sensors from Hawks (which are the stock 4th gen sensors) and wasted my money. I reused all my stock switches. For the T56 itself, try to make sure they don't remove the reverse lockout sensor and such, try to get it as a complete pull out.

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Old Nov 19, 2012 | 10:07 PM
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bullydawg- ended up getting a roof rack for my jeep fromt a 99 for windstar and I got a firebird radio pod, the junk yard had nothing , other than that .I think i pulled the only half decent part off the firebird.
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Old Feb 12, 2013 | 08:06 AM
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So I know this thread has died a long time ago , but I do have an update!

I started buying parts for my t56 swap ( lt1 t56 not ls1 t56)

So far I purchased
box from dakota digital , http://www.dakotadigital.com/index.c...rod/prd126.htm


firebird radio pod from junkyard so I can find a 4th gen console.

crossmemeber from hakwks third gen http://www.hawksthirdgenparts.com/pr...6-6-Speed.html

SO the next step of this build has started!

btw im trying to sell off all my extra parts if anyone wants em for a good price pm me so this build can go abit faster!
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Old Feb 15, 2013 | 08:27 AM
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Just bought a shifter mgw shifter, amd shift ****
http://www.mgwltd.com/camaro_short_throw_shifter.shtml

http://www.mgwltd.com/mustang_race_knob.shtml

I will get this car done! I will!

Part by part....

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Old Feb 17, 2013 | 01:14 PM
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Got a great deal on some black carpet. It was almost brand new picked up the front and rear for 100bucks!
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 07:08 PM
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Look what was waiting for me when I got home!!!
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 09:01 PM
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crossmember!
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 09:25 PM
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YES!!!! And wooohoo some one is still following my build haha

Trying to figure out what I should buy next for this swap...
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Old Feb 18, 2013 | 10:52 PM
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i thought you were gettin sorta lonely with other people commenting. i followed since i subscribed. what do you have and what else do you need?
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 07:16 AM
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I need , sound deadiner, 4th gen center console, t56 ,clutch ,hydrollics ,..uhh the rest of the parts for the 6 spd swap . And probably a couple more stuff that I can't think of right now
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 07:26 AM
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id focus on your drivetrain since you started that. you can drive with guages seat and steering wheel and shifter so interior can wait till last.
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 07:43 AM
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Very true but the carpet will be out already ,to cut the hole for the shifter. I've been wanting sounddeadiner for a while and since New carpet is going in might as well . But ill but Tue important stuff first lol
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 07:44 AM
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I'm gona try and buy some parts tonight after work....
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when doing sound deadener if your using the tar pad type make sure to have a heat gun and some sort of rolling wheel like a pizza dough spreader so you can work the stuff into all the little crevices. ive done many at the shop. fairly easy to do just time consuming, measure alot and make one big piece instead of many smaller pieces to cover your floor.
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 06:48 PM
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What type would you recommend ?
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Old Feb 19, 2013 | 07:57 PM
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of stuff? i dont remember what we use at the shop ill have to look if i remember but for a huge roll is like a hundred bucks or so. its not name brand but its just as good if not better.
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That crossmember is legit. I've had a couple others including some custom fab crossmembers and that one by far has the best clearances all around. You won't be disappointed going T56 either.
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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 05:58 PM
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I've been wanting to go T56 for a LONG time.



I am on a mission to have this car working correctly, and done right. I'll fix everything, and make sure everything has been done the right way.


This is not just a T56 swap.( this is my build! )

I am going to use sound deadiner, a new center console ( 4th gen ) install the rear view mirror with the two map lights(with led's ) instead of the auto dimming mirror that I currently have , installing the ac delete box from hawks,clean up wires in engine bay, and more.....


AND LOOK WHAT CAME TODAY!

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Old Feb 21, 2013 | 05:59 PM
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The people at MGWltd were very good to deal with with very fast shipping. I took a chance with mgw never herd of them before I started searching on ls1tech for the best shifter for t56's so far it looks awsome...

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Old Feb 23, 2013 | 09:33 PM
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Just bought a m6 console on ebay for $113.50 shipped!!.....eveyone else wanted 150-300 for em!!
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Old Feb 24, 2013 | 02:40 PM
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just ordered some 4th gen pedals ( 40 bucks shipped) !
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Old Feb 24, 2013 | 03:40 PM
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Found some decent deals over the week end I'm happy about that now gotta find the rest of the stuff I need.

I am having some difficulty picking wich clutch I should go with any advise?
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Old Feb 27, 2013 | 10:23 PM
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Just got my center console and 4th gen pedals in !
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pics or it didnt happen
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Old Feb 27, 2013 | 10:31 PM
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Congrats! You gonna be getting all this put in little by little as you get things or you gonna wait & out it all in at once?
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do it little by little is better than a stack of parts and getting sad when the parts pile depltetes.
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 07:20 AM
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now in the box that the guy sent me there was this part in the bottom where and what is it for?

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I am going to stock pile everything for a bit. In a month I have a couple days off ( my coworker and 2bosses are going to vagas ) so I am hoping to get the parts by then so I can uses those couple of day and get it done....Just the small problem of where I am goign to do this work....

still need a couple more important things.


I did not get the hardware from these pedals can i use regular bolts?

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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 07:33 AM
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your stock thirdgen bolts should work or something similar, dunno what that part is
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Old Feb 28, 2013 | 11:31 AM
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I looked it up though gm ,its for the pedals
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Anyone know where the best place to get the hydrollics at ?
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Old Mar 1, 2013 | 08:55 AM
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no =( inquire to whitedevil t/a on what setup he used?
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Old Mar 1, 2013 | 10:20 AM
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Thanks tylercamaro it seems this thread had become a two person thread for the most part... At least you will see the build lol
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Old Mar 1, 2013 | 10:48 AM
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i get dibs on a ride if im in your state! ive always like the simplicity yet overall badassness(made that up) of your car. i dont know manuals and stuff so i dont have much advice but i know of other people whove done swaps on here and can point you in the right direction maybe.
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Thank you , simple is more sometimes.....

I personally like step by step write ups
I like to write as best as I can and make it as simple as possible. My dyslexia is quite bad and my comprehension suffers . But I try and do the best I can ...
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Just purchased the hydrollics, master/slave from amazon of all places?

part number 12559912

$91.37 shipped to my door.

it should be here next week?
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good stuff, next on the list?
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Will I need a new fly wheel? Right now I've got the stock one.

I don't know what I'm gona buy next .

I don't know which clutch I should go with .
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 02:11 PM
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shouldnt you go t56 flywheel or does that make too much sense?
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Old Mar 4, 2013 | 07:43 PM
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No sense lol.. maybe someone else will chime in ( dont think anyone eles will but who knows ) anyways. I will do some searching
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 07:35 AM
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So The parts that are left on my list to buy are

sound deadiner
t56
bell housing
clutch & presure plate
fly wheel
tq arm mount
lower shift boot
pilot bearing/bushing
tq arm mount.

I am hoping I can find some one parting out a 4th gen so I can get a bunch of this stuff together.

The list is not that big! once I get all these parts I can figure out what else I want/ need
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 01:47 PM
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my firend i think is using a jegs torque arm on his t56 lt1 car
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 02:38 PM
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Re: Toxik's Build

Originally Posted by toxik IROC
So The parts that are left on my list to buy are

sound deadiner
t56
bell housing
clutch & presure plate
fly wheel
tq arm mount
lower shift boot
pilot bearing/bushing
tq arm mount.

I am hoping I can find some one parting out a 4th gen so I can get a bunch of this stuff together.

The list is not that big! once I get all these parts I can figure out what else I want/ need
You'll want to get the t56, torque arm mount, and bellhousing together and if you have the 1 piece rear main I think you can re-use the flywheel after getting it resurfaced, other than that you will want to use a brand new pilot bearing, clutch, and pressure plate. I've done a little reading up on the sticky, and the Skulte page is pretty informative too. http://www.skulte.com/T56.html

Subscribing for future reference, your car is bad@ss and slushyboxes FTL!
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Old Mar 5, 2013 | 07:26 PM
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Originally Posted by midnightfirews6
You'll want to get the t56, torque arm mount, and bellhousing together and if you have the 1 piece rear main I think you can re-use the flywheel after getting it resurfaced, other than that you will want to use a brand new pilot bearing, clutch, and pressure plate. I've done a little reading up on the sticky, and the Skulte page is pretty informative too. http://www.skulte.com/T56.html

Subscribing for future reference, your car is bad@ss and slushyboxes FTL!
Thanks, I have read the stickies a ton, and I am very used to using the search button.

what does slushyboxes ftl mean?

GOOD NEWS EVERYBODY! If things go according to plan I will be installing the t56 on the 3-22-13 though 3-23-10.

I Talked to a guy on tgo thats about an hour from me that is parting out a 95 trans am and he is being kinda enough to sell me what I need and help me install it!

But I do want a new

clutch/ presure plate fly wheel and pilot bearing .

So who has recomandions for the clutch/pp and the flywheel? I need to order them asap!

If you have read this far you know my mods and I have another vehical for daily driving so I would like something agressive but not that agressive that in the warmer months I'll hate to drive this car around town and on the highway.
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