Have no idea what is wrong. Please help.
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Have no idea what is wrong. Please help.
Ok so I have a 1990 Firebird Formula with the 5.7 motor. It was running great until I want to say mid January. I went to a shop that my family has gone to for years, and they said one of my fuel injectors went bad, so I swapped them all out. It didn't seem to get any better, honestly it seemed to get worse. So I brought it back and then it ended up being another thing on the intake manifold(I think. Sorry I have no idea what that part actually was.) anyway, I got that replaced and it seemed to run just a little better but now it randomly stalls(very randomly not too often) idles weird and just isn't running good anymore. If someone can give me some advice or can tell me what this possibly is? I would really appreciate it. If you need anymore details that I may have left out that could help ask away. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Have no idea what is wrong. Please help.
Ok so I have a 1990 Firebird Formula with the 5.7 motor. It was running great until I want to say mid January. I went to a shop that my family has gone to for years, and they said one of my fuel injectors went bad, so I swapped them all out. It didn't seem to get any better, honestly it seemed to get worse. So I brought it back and then it ended up being another thing on the intake manifold(I think. Sorry I have no idea what that part actually was.) anyway, I got that replaced and it seemed to run just a little better but now it randomly stalls(very randomly not too often) idles weird and just isn't running good anymore. If someone can give me some advice or can tell me what this possibly is? I would really appreciate it. If you need anymore details that I may have left out that could help ask away. Thanks in advance.
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Re: Have no idea what is wrong. Please help.
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tech...s-dumbies.html
without those anything else is guesswork
You might also confirm your fuel pressure is correct
Re: Have no idea what is wrong. Please help.
Check for codes, if any.
Look for vacuum leaks.
Check the fuel pressure. Check with key on, engine off, and then check with engine running. Check how it responds when you move the throttle. Fuel pressure should maintain a constant differential versus manifold pressure. That's the job of the fuel pressure regulator.
While you're at it, if possible try sucking on the vacuum hose that leads to the FPR. If it lets fuel be sucked out of it, it's leaking.
Check fuel pressure after the key is turned back off. It shouldn't lose more than maybe 3psi in 20 minutes. If it's dropping much faster than that, you have a leak somewhere, possibly a leaking injector or a bad O-ring.
With the work you had done, both vacuum and fuel issues could have been accidentally created, even if they weren't part of the original problem.
Under what conditions does it stall? Idling, or at speed? Does the rough running and stall seem to happen when cold, hot, or any sort of pattern that you can tell? Does it restart easily?
Look for vacuum leaks.
Check the fuel pressure. Check with key on, engine off, and then check with engine running. Check how it responds when you move the throttle. Fuel pressure should maintain a constant differential versus manifold pressure. That's the job of the fuel pressure regulator.
While you're at it, if possible try sucking on the vacuum hose that leads to the FPR. If it lets fuel be sucked out of it, it's leaking.
Check fuel pressure after the key is turned back off. It shouldn't lose more than maybe 3psi in 20 minutes. If it's dropping much faster than that, you have a leak somewhere, possibly a leaking injector or a bad O-ring.
With the work you had done, both vacuum and fuel issues could have been accidentally created, even if they weren't part of the original problem.
Under what conditions does it stall? Idling, or at speed? Does the rough running and stall seem to happen when cold, hot, or any sort of pattern that you can tell? Does it restart easily?
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Car: 1990 Pontiac Firebird Formula
Engine: 89 Camaron IROC-Z 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: Have no idea what is wrong. Please help.
Check for codes, if any.
Look for vacuum leaks.
Check the fuel pressure. Check with key on, engine off, and then check with engine running. Check how it responds when you move the throttle. Fuel pressure should maintain a constant differential versus manifold pressure. That's the job of the fuel pressure regulator.
While you're at it, if possible try sucking on the vacuum hose that leads to the FPR. If it lets fuel be sucked out of it, it's leaking.
Check fuel pressure after the key is turned back off. It shouldn't lose more than maybe 3psi in 20 minutes. If it's dropping much faster than that, you have a leak somewhere, possibly a leaking injector or a bad O-ring.
With the work you had done, both vacuum and fuel issues could have been accidentally created, even if they weren't part of the original problem.
Under what conditions does it stall? Idling, or at speed? Does the rough running and stall seem to happen when cold, hot, or any sort of pattern that you can tell? Does it restart easily?
Look for vacuum leaks.
Check the fuel pressure. Check with key on, engine off, and then check with engine running. Check how it responds when you move the throttle. Fuel pressure should maintain a constant differential versus manifold pressure. That's the job of the fuel pressure regulator.
While you're at it, if possible try sucking on the vacuum hose that leads to the FPR. If it lets fuel be sucked out of it, it's leaking.
Check fuel pressure after the key is turned back off. It shouldn't lose more than maybe 3psi in 20 minutes. If it's dropping much faster than that, you have a leak somewhere, possibly a leaking injector or a bad O-ring.
With the work you had done, both vacuum and fuel issues could have been accidentally created, even if they weren't part of the original problem.
Under what conditions does it stall? Idling, or at speed? Does the rough running and stall seem to happen when cold, hot, or any sort of pattern that you can tell? Does it restart easily?
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Re: Have no idea what is wrong. Please help.
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From: Titusville, Florida
Car: 1990 Pontiac Firebird Formula
Engine: 89 Camaron IROC-Z 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Thread Starter
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From: Titusville, Florida
Car: 1990 Pontiac Firebird Formula
Engine: 89 Camaron IROC-Z 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: Have no idea what is wrong. Please help.
Start by pulling the engine error codes
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tech...s-dumbies.html
without those anything else is guesswork
You might also confirm your fuel pressure is correct
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tech...s-dumbies.html
without those anything else is guesswork
You might also confirm your fuel pressure is correct
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From: Titusville, Florida
Car: 1990 Pontiac Firebird Formula
Engine: 89 Camaron IROC-Z 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: Have no idea what is wrong. Please help.
Ok got the codes read, they are 12 and 32. Any ideas on how to fix?
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Re: Have no idea what is wrong. Please help.
Light should have flashed 12 before and after any other codes
See
http://www.corvettephotographs.com/c4vettes/codes.htm
Have to work out what part of the EGR system is faulty 1st
Do the tests in link below
http://www.chevythunder.com/egr_code_32.htm
See
http://www.corvettephotographs.com/c4vettes/codes.htm
Have to work out what part of the EGR system is faulty 1st
Do the tests in link below
http://www.chevythunder.com/egr_code_32.htm
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From: Titusville, Florida
Car: 1990 Pontiac Firebird Formula
Engine: 89 Camaron IROC-Z 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: Have no idea what is wrong. Please help.
Light should have flashed 12 before and after any other codes
See
http://www.corvettephotographs.com/c4vettes/codes.htm
Have to work out what part of the EGR system is faulty 1st
Do the tests in link below
http://www.chevythunder.com/egr_code_32.htm
See
http://www.corvettephotographs.com/c4vettes/codes.htm
Have to work out what part of the EGR system is faulty 1st
Do the tests in link below
http://www.chevythunder.com/egr_code_32.htm
Joined: Apr 2005
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From: Not in Kansas anymore
Car: 82 Z28
Engine: 383 SP EFI/ 4150 TB
Transmission: T400
Axle/Gears: QP 9" 3.73
Re: Have no idea what is wrong. Please help.
You haven't identified WHAT actually is the problem yet
AIR you can remove with no problems.
Removing EGR may give a permanent SES light and you will need a custom chip with EGR delete on it to make it go away
AIR you can remove with no problems.
Removing EGR may give a permanent SES light and you will need a custom chip with EGR delete on it to make it go away
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From: Titusville, Florida
Car: 1990 Pontiac Firebird Formula
Engine: 89 Camaron IROC-Z 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: Have no idea what is wrong. Please help.
Ok so I see there is supposed to be a vacuum line on the egr valve. I can't seem to find any reference pictures of where or what this all is supposed to look like. Do you have any reference pics of all of this?
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From: Titusville, Florida
Car: 1990 Pontiac Firebird Formula
Engine: 89 Camaron IROC-Z 350
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 3.23
Re: Have no idea what is wrong. Please help.
Light should have flashed 12 before and after any other codes
See
http://www.corvettephotographs.com/c4vettes/codes.htm
Have to work out what part of the EGR system is faulty 1st
Do the tests in link below
http://www.chevythunder.com/egr_code_32.htm
See
http://www.corvettephotographs.com/c4vettes/codes.htm
Have to work out what part of the EGR system is faulty 1st
Do the tests in link below
http://www.chevythunder.com/egr_code_32.htm
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