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Old May 16, 2002 | 09:41 PM
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Do i have a chance against a trans am?

there is this kid at my school with a 97 auto trans am that is stock and i want to race him in my z28. can i beat him? i recently beat a 96 auto formula, but i don't know if the trans am is faster or slower than it. so does he have me, or will it be a race on who gets the better traction. thanks
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Old May 16, 2002 | 09:56 PM
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The Formula and Trans Am should be pretty much the same car if they are V8's. I think some Formula's have V6's. I would think that the formula you ran is a V6, because I would imagine a V8 LT1 would spank you 305.

Eric
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Old May 16, 2002 | 10:10 PM
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Just cause he has a 305 doesn't mean the Trans Am will spank him. If his cam is matched right with the 305 and having the higher compression I would say that the 305 would be pretty formidable. Having a 5speed will also help.
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Old May 16, 2002 | 10:16 PM
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the formula i raced had the LT1 in it. how do i know? research and the guy told me after we raced. just cause i have a 305 doesn't mean i'm slow.
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Old May 16, 2002 | 10:33 PM
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Originally posted by ChevalierSS
The Formula and Trans Am should be pretty much the same car if they are V8's. I think some Formula's have V6's. I would think that the formula you ran is a V6, because I would imagine a V8 LT1 would spank you 305.

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a 4th gen formy with a V6?!?!?!?!:nono:
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Old May 16, 2002 | 10:41 PM
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fly is right

97 lt1 camaro = 96 lt1 trans am
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Old May 16, 2002 | 10:56 PM
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i'm very sure that they NEVER made V6 formula's since they came out in '70-1/2...
the only v6 formula i've ever read about.. was in pontiac (the magazine) where some guy put in a supercharged 3.8L inside his formula cuz his lt1 took a dive..
neways.. NO v6 formulas.
(my formula pride came out.. sorry.)
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Old May 16, 2002 | 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by Bird_of_Prey

the only v6 formula i've ever read about.. was in pontiac (the magazine) where some guy put in a supercharged 3.8L inside his formula
You mean 3.8L turbo. The GN engine. And :hail: to that car that he had. Last I heard it was running a 10.4 and still streetable
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Old May 16, 2002 | 11:33 PM
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so do i have a chance?
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Old May 16, 2002 | 11:53 PM
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It will come mostly down to driver in the end. I would say he has a slight advantage over you though.

Edit: I didn't see the mild cam and the higher compression. I would say it will come completely down to the driver. But I wouldn't test his 6 speed in high mph. I have tried that in my Cobra...doesn't work.
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Old May 17, 2002 | 12:03 AM
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I wouldn't test his 6 speed in high mph.
The original post says the TA has a slushbox, so that won't be a problem.

I agree with everyone else thus far: it's a driver's race.
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Old May 17, 2002 | 12:36 AM
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My friend has no mods on his 305 MPFI and ive never seen him beat a TransAm with a lt1 in it. So im gonna hafe to say its all gonna come down to the driver and the 5 speed is relly gonna help you in the long run.
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Old May 17, 2002 | 09:08 AM
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It'll be a good race. Dont underestimate the 4L60E auto. It is a MAJOR improvement over the 700r4 in every possible way. But from a roll you'll have an advantage. He will probably edge you out if you ran from a dead stop. The autos are easy as hell to launch, so be on your toes and practice your launches.

I see you have forged internals...why not buy a nitrous kit and kick some @ss? You wont be sorry.

-Doug
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Old May 17, 2002 | 01:10 PM
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you guys talk like the 305s cant run.

if they are built correclty they will smoke some stuff.

my uncle has an old 265 (V8) that will put a spanking on a 454
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Old May 17, 2002 | 01:10 PM
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Originally posted by 92TPIZ28
the formula i raced had the LT1 in it. how do i know? research and the guy told me after we raced. just cause i have a 305 doesn't mean i'm slow.
Sorry about that, I didn't see in your sig you had a cam. I'm not saying a 305 is slow, but an LT1 shouldn't have any problems with a stock 305.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I could swear I've seen V6 formulas.
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Old May 17, 2002 | 01:53 PM
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Nope, fourth gen Formula's are V8s. Sneaky little ****s too! You look at them and they look like a V6 but they really aren't. Quite a good sleeper. Anyways I still say this race is going to come down to the better driver. You better be able to launch good and shift like a mother because his auto isn't gonna leave you room to miss a shift or slow shift.
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Old May 17, 2002 | 04:32 PM
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the owner of the trans am says his torque converter is about to go, so i think this is a very good advantage for me to win
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Old May 17, 2002 | 04:41 PM
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gotta remember one thing on the street...anything can happen, i've seen 11 second cars lose to 13 second cars due to whatever reasons, anything can happen

So i say you represent us thirdgenners and show that 4thgen they aren't ****
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Old May 18, 2002 | 03:28 PM
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Originally posted by fly89gta

So i say you represent us thirdgenners and show that 4thgen they aren't ****
I'm stuck in the middle here. I can use my IROC to represent the 3rd genners then I'll jump in my Trans Am to represent the 4th genners
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Old May 18, 2002 | 05:58 PM
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And I'm stuck on the outside with representing my Cobra.
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Old May 18, 2002 | 09:16 PM
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fly89gta...... It is not everyday I see a TTA They one of the sweetest TA's. Just rode in my first TTA today, and I must say that they are sweet!!!
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Old May 18, 2002 | 11:03 PM
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I don't know what this is worth but a couple of years ago a buddy of mine got a 93 Formula with a 6 speed in it and his best time at the track at 13.7 with just a K&N in it...this was pretty close to sea level so that should have helped some but remeber that the formulas don't have any of the bells and whistles that the trans ams do..no power anything, among other things..so they are lighter...btw my buddy is one heck of a driver 2...my 2 cents though it might not be worth much..Good luck
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Old May 18, 2002 | 11:30 PM
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Some formulas can be had stripped down with no power goodies but you can get them with just about all that stuff as well. I remember looking at a '92 fomrula that had leather and power everything (yeah i know its thirdgen). The main difference is that the formulas don't have all the factory GFX and foglights like the TA's do. Oh yeah i'd say you're '92 has a slight edge over the trans am and this should come down to the driver.
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