'85 monte ss vs '85 TA
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From: Eastpointe, MI
Car: 2001 Trans Am WS.6, 1985 Trans Am-RIP :,(
Engine: LS1, 305 TPI
Transmission: 4L60E, 700R-4
'85 monte ss vs '85 TA
His car: 1985 Monte SS, 3.73 rear, L69, no other mods
Mine: 1985 TA, '89 305 TPI, AC delete, electric fan, flowmaster, gutted cat, AIR and smog pump delete.
Who would win? What HP/TQ did the L69 Monte's put up?
Thanks,
Matt
Mine: 1985 TA, '89 305 TPI, AC delete, electric fan, flowmaster, gutted cat, AIR and smog pump delete.
Who would win? What HP/TQ did the L69 Monte's put up?
Thanks,
Matt
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From: Eastpointe, MI
Car: 2001 Trans Am WS.6, 1985 Trans Am-RIP :,(
Engine: LS1, 305 TPI
Transmission: 4L60E, 700R-4
Yea, the engine is an '89 i think. No ninth injector. But then again, I haven't got a clue on what has been done to the engine. No CSI, but the '85 harness and ECM was retained. I cant find the block number. The cam may actually be aftermarket. A few mechanics have said it sounded like a mild one was in. But the car has a blown donut in the y -pipe and there were other problems at that time. So who knows.
I did know engine work other than keeping it running as well as can be. I am planning on building a 400 next summer.
How can I tell what cam is in?
Thanks,
Matt
I did know engine work other than keeping it running as well as can be. I am planning on building a 400 next summer.
How can I tell what cam is in?
Thanks,
Matt
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From: Washington state
Car: 82 z-28
Engine: L69
Transmission: muncie T-10
i'm going with the camaro
the monte may have more power, but not much if any. and he weighs a little more, plus his gears aren't all that great, a drivers race pretty much, but if u can drive, u should have him.
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Car: 89 FORMULA 350, 91 Z28 Convertible
Engine: ls1, LB9
Transmission: t56, Auto
Axle/Gears: S60/ 3.73
If it is a 89 tpi 305 then you will kill him. not even close those stock montecarslows usually run low 16's here thats with the 3.73 gears. the 305 tpi auto 89's (stock all the way)run mid to low 15's this is what I have seen and driven so unless you have some other eng. under the tpi I think you have him
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From: Annapolis MD
Car: 87 Vette 85 TA 82 Z/28
Engine: 3 - 350's 388 400
Transmission: 2-700R4's 1 T56 Setup!
Axle/Gears: 2.59's 3.42's 3.73's
my dad had an 85 monte SS and it ran 15.30's bone stock. his 83 H.O. camaro Z ran 15.10's
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Originally posted by Mad-Mic
my dad had an 85 monte SS and it ran 15.30's bone stock. his 83 H.O. camaro Z ran 15.10's
my dad had an 85 monte SS and it ran 15.30's bone stock. his 83 H.O. camaro Z ran 15.10's
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From: Diamondhead, MS
Car: 89 20th Ann. TA
Engine: Turbo 3.8 V6
Transmission: 200 4R
Axle/Gears: 3.27
83-84 Monte SS' got TH350C and 3.42 gears.
85-88 Monte SS' got 2004R with 3.73 gears.
Same engine except clutch fan.
85-88 Monte SS' got 2004R with 3.73 gears.
Same engine except clutch fan.
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Car: 89 FORMULA 350, 91 Z28 Convertible
Engine: ls1, LB9
Transmission: t56, Auto
Axle/Gears: S60/ 3.73
seems pretty quick for stock? got any time slips or better yet video's not calling
but, around here I have yet to see a stock monty run 15's
but, around here I have yet to see a stock monty run 15's Senior Member
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Car: 87 Vette 85 TA 82 Z/28
Engine: 3 - 350's 388 400
Transmission: 2-700R4's 1 T56 Setup!
Axle/Gears: 2.59's 3.42's 3.73's
Originally posted by Inwo
Same engine and gearing. Pretty sure it's the same transmission too, so those times seem accurate. Any idea of the MPH?
Same engine and gearing. Pretty sure it's the same transmission too, so those times seem accurate. Any idea of the MPH?
Originally posted by 88 350 tpi formula
seems pretty quick for stock? got any time slips or better yet video's not calling
but, around here I have yet to see a stock monty run 15's
seems pretty quick for stock? got any time slips or better yet video's not calling
but, around here I have yet to see a stock monty run 15's Last edited by Mad-Mic; Sep 13, 2003 at 07:41 PM.
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From: Diamondhead, MS
Car: 89 20th Ann. TA
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Originally posted by Mad-Mic
i want to say 87-89 mph or so.
oh yeah this was a BRAND NEW car not no 100k mile car. this was also back in late 84 early 85.
i want to say 87-89 mph or so.
oh yeah this was a BRAND NEW car not no 100k mile car. this was also back in late 84 early 85.
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Car: 1992 Z-28 Camaro
Engine: LB9 305 TPI
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Yeh but those later year montes are slow. Honestly I've never seen a stock 85 or 86ss run anything near a 15. You've got him easily no problem and If you don't theres something wrong with your car. Those monte's are boats. I would expect a 16.5 his best. You should be mid-high 15's
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Car: 89 20th Ann. TA
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Originally posted by Camaro68Vette63
Yeh but those later year montes are slow. Honestly I've never seen a stock 85 or 86ss run anything near a 15. You've got him easily no problem and If you don't theres something wrong with your car. Those monte's are boats. I would expect a 16.5 his best. You should be mid-high 15's
Yeh but those later year montes are slow. Honestly I've never seen a stock 85 or 86ss run anything near a 15. You've got him easily no problem and If you don't theres something wrong with your car. Those monte's are boats. I would expect a 16.5 his best. You should be mid-high 15's
Our 84 would pull a couple of cars on the later ones. Best stock 85 I saw run was 15.9.
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Car: 2001 Trans Am WS.6, 1985 Trans Am-RIP :,(
Engine: LS1, 305 TPI
Transmission: 4L60E, 700R-4
Well I raced him today and I won, barely though. I spun a little on takeoff. He was ahead a car length or so, I gained on him and pulled ahead about a half car length. By the end he was right on my bumper.
That was the closest race I ever had. Most are either me smoking some civic or me bein smoked by some gt.
Monte's got some power in them.
Matt
That was the closest race I ever had. Most are either me smoking some civic or me bein smoked by some gt.
Monte's got some power in them.
Matt
if you just edged him out you better start looking at changing the peanut cam in your car , tpi 305 's with a good comp cam will run in the 14;s , thats why it was a close race the monte has the l69 cam which is 10 times better than what you have
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