Jun 28, 2007 | 12:51 AM
  #1  
How do you think a completely stock l69 H.O would stack
up against some newer model cars do you think it will hold its own or would it be beaten horribly.
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Jun 28, 2007 | 08:25 AM
  #2  
Re: L69
I had a 84 Z28, HO 5spd. It ran 15.2 completely bone stock back then. I'm sure one wouldn't run that well with age and miles on them now.

But it really isn't considered fast now. Lots of 4cyl cars can run that number now. Pretty sad but a fact.
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Jun 28, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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Re: L69
Man Clean it up would look so much better probly run better to
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Jun 28, 2007 | 11:45 AM
  #4  
Re: L69
Quote: How do you think a completely stock l69 H.O would stack up against some newer model cars
Ever consider selling her.....?
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Jun 28, 2007 | 02:28 PM
  #5  
Re: L69
Not in a million years would i sell my camaro. Sorry about all the dirt this is an old pic i have cleaned it up since then. so far the only thing i have done to it is put on an accel super coil and a set of flowmasters. if i ever get beat by a 4 cyl it will be time to start modding
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Jun 28, 2007 | 04:22 PM
  #6  
Re: L69
Quote: if i ever get beat by a 4 cyl it will be time to start modding....
That time is rapidly approaching, I'm afraid....
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Jun 28, 2007 | 04:39 PM
  #7  
Re: L69
how well do you think a set of headers would wake up my l69
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Jun 28, 2007 | 04:45 PM
  #8  
Re: L69
When I started out with the 305, I added a small compucam, 210, 216 durations, weiand dual plane, L69 air cleaner, hedman headers with ypipe, and flowmaster catback.
It ran high 15's. Yuck.

Save for a 350. Now I run low 13's on street tires.
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Jun 28, 2007 | 04:52 PM
  #9  
Re: L69
well i want to keep the 305 but still get decent power.Im only 16 so i think for now the 305 will do fine. is there anyway to get a little more out of it without breaking the bank.
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Jun 28, 2007 | 06:41 PM
  #10  
Re: L69
If you got to chevyhiperformance.com and click on tech articles and then go to boly-on barrage theres is an article about the 84 Z28 HO. They added a cat back exhaust, high flow converter, headers, intake, heads, cam and an air filter which gained them about 50 rear wheel horsepower and it cost them about $3200. The last page of the article has the part #s for what they used. Any of the mods in their would get a bit more power out of your.
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Jun 28, 2007 | 08:34 PM
  #11  
Re: L69
With just a cam swap, porting the heads, and a nice dual plane intake you'll really wake the car up. You'll have to modify the carb to keep up with it but it'll work fine. The exhaust mods should be considered mandatory on these cars.
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Jun 28, 2007 | 09:30 PM
  #12  
Re: L69
yeah, cam, headers, intake, it'll make it alot funner
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Jun 28, 2007 | 09:43 PM
  #13  
Re: L69
Quote: well i want to keep the 305 but still get decent power.Im only 16 so i think for now the 305 will do fine. is there anyway to get a little more out of it without breaking the bank.
Mine stock:

15.50's @ 88

Mild cam, dual plane intake, shorty headers, 3" cat-back (no cat), and tuned Q-jet:

14.10 @ 98

The look on the guys face in a 92 LT1 vette I just smoked:

priceless.

150k on the engine when I ran the 14.10, and I pulled it the next day for a j/yard 350 swap. Same bolt-ons, similar cam, 13.60's with the 350.

As far as getting your *** kicked, some grandma in a V6 camry or accord will either make you work for it hard or hand you your lunch. I'd race on an empty stomach if I were you.
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Jun 29, 2007 | 12:12 PM
  #14  
Re: L69
Cheap stuff would be, going from memory:
K&N air filter
Remove charcoal ring in filter housing(free)
Thermostat
Chip
Crank up the timing. I used to run 14* initial. I think stock is 6*, can't really remember. Might be only able to 10-12 depending on the condition of the everything(free)
New plugs, wires, cap, rotor, tune up stuff basically.

That'll make a pretty decent difference for not a lot of money.

I ran with the above mods plus no air pump or cat. With 235/60/15 Euro T/A's, I scored a 13.89. But the car was still only a couple of years old at the time.
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Jun 29, 2007 | 06:01 PM
  #15  
Re: L69
thanks for all the info. i will see what i can do. my motor is still in great condition and only has 62000 miles on it.
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Jun 29, 2007 | 06:15 PM
  #16  
Re: L69
The cams in those are famous for wiping lobes. Mine had a couple down with less than 100K on it, and every 305 I've done a cam swap in has had at least one lobe wiped. Good luck and post your times with it still stock.
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Jun 29, 2007 | 06:57 PM
  #17  
Re: L69
instead of doing heads/cam and stuff, yank the 305 in favor of a used LT1. put the carb intake and opti delete plate on and run your dizzy and carb. pop a cam and headers on there and make ~340rwhp or whatever....
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Jun 29, 2007 | 09:21 PM
  #18  
Re: L69
Quote: instead of doing heads/cam and stuff, yank the 305 in favor of a used LT1. put the carb intake and opti delete plate on and run your dizzy and carb. pop a cam and headers on there and make ~340rwhp or whatever....
Why not just pick up a used Vortec 350 from a 1996-2002 chevy truck/van. Slap a nice carb intake on it and a nice little hydraulic roller cam. The GM LT4 hotcam in a Vortec is a proven 425 FWHP.
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Jun 29, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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Re: L69
Quote: Why not just pick up a used Vortec 350 from a 1996-2002 chevy truck/van. Slap a nice carb intake on it and a nice little hydraulic roller cam. The GM LT4 hotcam in a Vortec is a proven 425 FWHP.
thattle werk great too, just have iron heads instead of alum i guess.....
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Jun 29, 2007 | 11:06 PM
  #20  
Re: L69
How the heck would you work the reverse cooling on an LT1 with a carb and opti block off? How about the Tstat don't you have to remote mount it still? I'de say screw that, and don't swap the motor right yet, flat tappet cams are cheap your heads flow decently already, and an intake can be used on a 350 later on *unless you go Vortec then you'll need a new one*. I say stick with what you have for now, cam it and get a ZZ4 take off intake or a used Edelbrock Performer or Performer RPM. This mixed with headers should be a sweet setup for a while, when it wears out just swap in a 350.
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Jun 30, 2007 | 11:57 PM
  #21  
Re: L69
just wondering, how many people have actually kept there original l69.
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Jul 1, 2007 | 12:12 AM
  #22  
Re: L69
Mine with 150K on the clock had 38 psi of oil pressure going down the track with 20W50 oil...

I recycled it

courtesy of the local landfill

one day it will be a collectors piece

I decided not to wait until then......

It still ran when we pushed it out of the bed of that pickup........
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Jul 1, 2007 | 01:17 AM
  #23  
Re: L69
that sucks u should have held on to it. and by the way what oil pressure should it run stock because mine usually sits around the very top of the guage
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Jul 1, 2007 | 07:04 AM
  #24  
Re: L69
Quote: just wondering, how many people have actually kept there original l69.
I would probably have kept mine if the computer didn't short out and cause a fire

Came back from walking the dog and saw the windows tinted. I was like WTF. Opened up the door and was smoke filled, computer laying on the floor mat, dash drooped down and part of the door panel gone. Insurance didn't want to fix it because it was electrical and would always be problems. When the roll back came, it fired right up and drove it up. It sat at the body shop for about a month and they would start it up and move it around.

RIP in '94. Here are a few pics.

L69-z28dash.jpg   L69-z28computer.jpg   L69-z28side.jpg  

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Jul 1, 2007 | 05:17 PM
  #25  
Re: L69
TTA 1387, that would have to suck i couldnt imagine coming home to my cars interior being melted that looked like a super nice camaro too. that makes me sad just looking at it.
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Jul 1, 2007 | 06:55 PM
  #26  
Re: L69
Yep, I loved that thing. It was first car that I bought. Learned a lot about computer controlled cars with that car. Although I really didn't like the brown color, I had it repainted brown but an S-10 brown. Looked much better than the original brown. The interior was also the brown L/S, but that grew on me and those seats were great.

Went through a couple 5spds with the power it was making. Surprised I never did break the rear.

Definitely a fun car, especially back then.
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Jul 1, 2007 | 09:30 PM
  #27  
Re: L69
Quote: thattle
Is that even a word??

Sorry, I had to.
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Quote: Mine stock:

15.50's @ 88

Mild cam, dual plane intake, shorty headers, 3" cat-back (no cat), and tuned Q-jet:

14.10 @ 98

The look on the guys face in a 92 LT1 vette I just smoked:

priceless.

150k on the engine when I ran the 14.10, and I pulled it the next day for a j/yard 350 swap. Same bolt-ons, similar cam, 13.60's with the 350.

As far as getting your *** kicked, some grandma in a V6 camry or accord will either make you work for it hard or hand you your lunch. I'd race on an empty stomach if I were you.
Nice times for what you had done.

However I'd be pretty upset if I was the vette owner, not for losing to a thirdgen but for not being able to get out of the 14's with a LT1 vette
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Jul 2, 2007 | 06:12 AM
  #28  
Re: L69
Quote: Cheap stuff would be, going from memory:
K&N air filter
Remove charcoal ring in filter housing(free)
Thermostat
Chip
Crank up the timing. I used to run 14* initial. I think stock is 6*, can't really remember. Might be only able to 10-12 depending on the condition of the everything(free)
New plugs, wires, cap, rotor, tune up stuff basically.

That'll make a pretty decent difference for not a lot of money.

I ran with the above mods plus no air pump or cat. With 235/60/15 Euro T/A's, I scored a 13.89. But the car was still only a couple of years old at the time.
Charcoal ring? do you mean the metal filter inside the filter housing?
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Jul 2, 2007 | 07:19 AM
  #29  
Re: L69
Quote: Charcoal ring? do you mean the metal filter inside the filter housing?
Yes, its been 20 years so it might not have been charcoal. But either way, that is it.
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Jul 28, 2007 | 01:49 PM
  #30  
Re: L69
Quote: Charcoal ring? do you mean the metal filter inside the filter housing?
Thats not a filter. Its a vapor arrestor
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Jul 28, 2007 | 10:41 PM
  #31  
Re: L69
still got my l69 stock runs 14.40 just rolled over 100,000 mile with 0 mods and even running a fan blade since electric fan burned up years ago, and no headers she still runs strong, killed many a iroc 350 with it.lol
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Jul 30, 2007 | 05:52 PM
  #32  
Re: L69
I still have the original (except for a few mods) L69 in my 84 camaro
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Aug 1, 2007 | 02:51 PM
  #33  
Re: L69
Quote: my l69 stock runs 14.40 just rolled over 100,000 mile with 0 mods
LOL...I dont think so
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Aug 2, 2007 | 01:20 AM
  #34  
Re: L69
14.40, one wheel peel, stock L69, 700r4? Something doesn't add up here. You sure the enigne is stock, there's many a 350 block sitting under 305 heads in a 305 engine bay up for sale anymore.
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Aug 3, 2007 | 08:07 AM
  #35  
Re: L69
Quote: LOL...I dont think so
I'd say 15.2 was about it for a bone stock L69 back then. Even worse with 100K on it.
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Aug 18, 2007 | 12:26 PM
  #36  
Re: L69
not sure i bought motor from a 84 z-28 for 400 bucks 8 years ago put it in my sport coupe and have done nothing to it since
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