Right . Anyway, nice job with the pic there Vortex. Who installed that for you?

 

I would look back and see how "civil" you really acted here.
right off the bat when I posted you came up with "you know this is a chevy site right" or "do you even own a thirdgen?" you came out with the agressive you don't belong here and then going on insulting the type of car I used to drive.
come on you really call this being civil?

I'm also curious what the sudden backtracking on what you said or how you acted?

let me ask would you rather just pretend that none of this ever happened?

 

wanna delete it all and pretend this thread never happened? i said it like 3-4 pages ago, maybe two

 

I see we have returned to hostilities... Oh well.

Regardless, those who want to know the whole story about the possum can read it here:

http://www.turbobuick.com/forums/gen...mond-ruff.html


Also, for the record, I wish more guys from outside the thirdgen circle would hang out here. It's always good to add good heads into the mix, and people with a different knowledge base can offer a fresh look at things and more than that show you things in a different context. No point in running people off. We used to have 25thMustang but he got run off too, I believe.

 

Funny story vortex.

 

ah like this. an example of your civil postings that I missed on first round through.

I'm not into imports. I'm into cars. give me my 71 camaro back I'll be just as happy as if you hand me a 93 supra. not much into trucks but to me cars are cars. hell I would be happy with my old 76 accord again with the draw through carb setup I was working on. but sadly I was forced to sell that adventure before I was able to finish.


lol I think it's too late. it's already been burned into many peoples eyes and my fingers. plus it's too late I'm already awake enough that I'm not going to go to bed for a little while longer I believe. unless I can talk my wife into going to the car lot with me tomorrow. I wanna get rid of that damn subaru.


sadly hostilities happen here. you've been here a while you know how it works. you either get some idiot import guy who comes here to start problems or some bone headed domestic guy who thinks that it looks cool to act tough or is afraid of being picked on by the import guys that all turns south from there. cars are cars. it's nice to know all sides of the table, and if nothing else there is always the saying. "keep you friends close but keep your enemies closer" or something like that at least right? well why the hell do you think I'm here, I'm just spying on you all to see what the thirdgen side is really up to. it's notthat I actually enjoy your cars or anything right?
I miss 25th. he was a good guy, just like stu and the couple others that have been here over the years.

 

Don't re-engage him. It's not worth it. It's obvious to anyone who reads this thread who was the antagonist. Don't become the new one.

 

 

again

 

true, i'm considering going back through and "de-criminating" myself just incase the mods do crackdown and start "stephening" people i should also probably stop mentioning "he who should not me mentioned"

 

That was some good reading! I wonder if the guy ever ended up buying the car or not?

And I know 25th....actually live right by him. He's got a sharp looking stang, but I havn't seen him at any of the local spots in a while. Then again, the local spots aren't what they used to be either...

 

honestly I agree with you and I'll leave things lie from here regarding that topic. just saw that post and was struck by the troll bait. I'm bad at that and get sucked in quite easily at times

so for putting the halt on that.

man I'm going to need to spend some more time here at the site. I don't see hardly any of the people I'm used to anymore. been far too long. who owns the joint now? I know dirk used to then he sold it to some computer people but not sure what happened from there? is IROCZTWENTYGR8 still around?

and why the hell is this site still finiky. page's still hang upon loading, sometimes not loading at all till I hit refresh and other little weirdness issues.

you can't decriminate yourself. it's too late. google knows all and remembers all.
also what is this stephening thing you are refering to and this "he who should not be mentioned."

 

I think he is one of the moderators.

 

you refering to stevev86ta?
if so come on he isn't that bad.

 

I don't know why the tiny font made me laugh so much. Oh I see, it's 1:45 in the morning.

 

Ok, here is where the smartass comments start. What do you expect. Someone not to give you a slap back?

 

Isn't that a form of an attack?

 

More of an attack , and other members chiming in so they can feel like they are "a part of" or looking for a feeling of belonging. How low does one have to steep to attack back? How old are these people on here now? Teenagers? This site is not like it used to be.

 

To top it all off , i was right on everything i said concerning cars. There is no way to convince anyone on this site of that and that is obvious. The one's that don't know any better will stick by the ones that they THINK do. Or act like they do. That is in order for them to feel better and seem like they have an understanding.

 

the ninteyone if you don't care for this site, we are all wrong, none of us make you feel like a family, then why are you here wasting your time?
this isn't a place that traps you here and you are more then welcome to leave anytime.

As far as you getting attacked I can honestly see why you do. you're attitude is that of a know it all. Even if that isn't what you mean it's how you come off. Maybe try toning what you say down if you don't agree with them. Quit puffing your chest and trying to act strong and just try to be civil.

 

LOL, since it was brought to your attention about the personal attacks, which you edited after the fact, you're now trying to find something to call attacks against you, even if none exists.

I'm going to be blunt about this.

You have been wrong on just about everything you have said, most of it being conjecture, end of story.

I've been working with cars since I was old enough to hold a wrench, that would be about 3 years old, granted I didn't really "fix" anything back then, but I was still learning from my Grandfather, my uncle and his friends, and the learning has never stopped. Most of my employment history revolves around cars, from repairing them, to modifying them, on a mechanical and electrical level, I currently build and repair many different types of vehicles in full time employment, and if I didn't know what I was talking about, I wouldn't be there.

For someone like me, it easy to see who the readers are and the doers. You're not a doer, you're some guy that reads some stuff, seems to be incorrect, and then tries to convince other people that know what they are doing that they are wrong.

Which brings me to this:
It sounds like you're trying to put yourself in the "knowing" group, when you are far outside of that group. I suggest that you step back, re-asses, and learn about how things really are, before spouting any more of your conjecture or incorrect information.

 

Wow this thread is still alive and not locked. CRAZY. I still stand behind my 2 boosted cars are faster then ninetyones .

be back in a few more days see how many pages this is upto then.

 

and that is called an assumption. So who did all the work to my car then? Don't make assumptions.

 

i did that once sorry everyone, i think boosted cars can be faster but i stand by that mod for mod theres not a way to make a smaller engine faster than a big one, case in point bugatti veyron ss W16 8 turbos 4 radiators and 261 mph officially, as for the quarter mile idk, hell might be slower than a stock thirdgen ha anyone drag raced one yet? quick someone other than me look that up

 

old internet saying, pics or it didn't happen..........you got pics?

 

Now there ya go. Glad to see you picked something up from this thread! LOL, ANYTHING can be fast. And a lot of imports if you do your research really don't take thousands of dollars to get there either. Thats just a common misconception, but I WILL agree that when starting out with a larger displacement motor, you have it a bit easier to make power than a smaller motor. Keep in mind though that this is of course N/A to N/A....a turbo is the replacement for displacement on a small engine!

 

well bigger engines have more displacement, however turbos force more displacement of air through the engine, but i'm done arguing anything for awhile

 

According to wikipedia :
Standing quarter-mile (402 m)[20]10.2 seconds at 230 km/h (142.9 mph)

 

yepp faster than a STOCK thirdgen, but also goes to show my other saying is true, "theres always someone faster"

 

Don't mean to insult your inteligence or knowage but I am a walking car encyclopeda. The Veyron SS has a Quad turbo W16 (Two twin turbocharged Audi 4.2L V8s combined) with 8 or 16 radiators (I don't remember which). The Name Bugatti EB 16.4 Veyron gives it away. EB stand for Ettor Bugatti (The founder of the company), 16 stands for the amount of cylinders, and 4 is for the turbos. And about 9 seconds in the quarter. But yah. You are correct.

 

no offense taken, G.I. Joe "and now you know, and knowing is half the battle"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pele5vptVgc

 

Buggati veyrons are weaksauce! Try this baby on for size. One of my all time favorite cars, and with a supercharged V8, it's almost as fast as a veyron with way less weight.

Koenigsegg CCR

 

The Koenigsegg CCXR, with a twin supercharged 4.7L V8, running on bio fuel produces well over 1000hp and gets atleast 30 mpg. Emitions are down by like -70 from a gasoline engine, and the exhaust temp drops by like 150*C-. Only 6 were ever produced and sadly with a top speed of 254 still doesn't beat the Veyron SS. The new Koenigsegg Agera looks promesing. As does the Henessy Venom GT, The Zenvo ST 1, and the new replacement for the Ultamate Aero TT from SSC.

 

My fave will always be the CCV8S Though.

 

here is another thing though when it comes to racing imports vs racing domestics or turbo' vs displacement.


IT DOESN'T MATTER :-)

if you run in with a stock 350 and I come out with a modded 3 wanger geo metro that is touched up a little bit and I hand you your bum on a nice silver (well in this case a 3 wanger metro I think you deserve gold) platter then it deosn't matter if all you need is a cam, some heads and a little bit of a diet. point of the matter is you still lost.

what you CAN do vs what you ARE doing are different things. What your engine is capable of doing doesn't mean that this is what it is doing.
we need to remember then when comparing cars. what are we racing dreams or reality here?

 

well i know my american dreams are faster than your imported dreams hahahahahahahahha ohhh and what about this car, my favorite the legendary Lola t70 now be honest, whose heard of it before?
wiki has **** info, so i concept carz'd it lol, oh and google some of the speeds they were known to reach during races on the straight at le mans insane considering that a very wealthy man now uses one as his daily driver, he made it road legal

http://www.conceptcarz.com/z18474/Lola-T70-MKIIIB.aspx

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lola_T70

 

And I now officially dub this our new BSing thread...

 

it suits it haha

 

A line from Nonpoints song "Alive and Kicking" sums this thread up pretty well, "I have my opinion and you have yours, you don't have to like mine, cause I don't like yours!". Any idiot can make a V8 fast, but it takes a real idiot to make a smaller engine fast. Not an exact quote, but we can thank Jensen73110 for that bit of humor.

 

Hah. Thats pretty awesome.

 

Well said...especially if you race for money. All the coulda shoulda woulda excuses don't mean jack...you still lost money! The winner isnt gonna give a **** why you lost. None of this "uh if I had heads and cam I woulda won" or " if I had a turbo I woulda won" crap. To me all these BS excuses make the person look like a r!cer or sore loser. Next time your "three fiddy" better be ready for that little four banger.

 

why should I say it any different? I'm a fat old guy (well only 29 and around 220lbs) that drives a 96 buick. I have no reason to make excuses cause I know my place in the world

 

i believe it was jensen73110

 

I took all three of those video's lol. The last one, that was with Shawn driving....

 

SATAN!!!! TAKE THIS THREAD NOW!!!!

 

**** he took it halfway through page one

 

 

As Someone who owns and regularly plays around with both a Civic and a Camaro, I have to point out that they are both equally fun in their own way. There has always been a lot of controversy over the two, yet I can never understand it. Imports are not even really imports anymore. My 04 civic was put together by Americans in the USA with mainly Canadian parts. Both the block and head even have "USA" molded into them. I love my Camaro, but I love my honda too and I think the guys who like to bicker over which one is better really need to get over it, in the end its all heads, cams, and oil pans and it is a hobby all of us car enthusiasts enjoy regardless of what country the name badge originated in. (I work for a real parts store and more than 85% of after market parts arn't even made in the usa anyway.) The car world is a global market now and we all need bond together to keep the few freedoms we still have left. For the record a real "import tuner" doesn't have an autozone or ebay fart can, it has a real exhaust system and is actually tuned, Maybe we should start educating the younger generations who toss on an $80 muffler to be cool instead of criticizing them for trying to fit in.?

 

hah i might have to fly u out to utah i need a camera man to film the tt iroc now

 

... lmao, Utah??? Hellz no, I won't even head down to South Jersey cuz of the freaking seclusion, never mind Utah lol. We hit up the track last night w/the camera, but can't find anyone with a steady hand though so it's hard to get the GTA in any decent footage cuz everybody wants to run their own stuff. Hitting the Krazy House dyno soon though Dave, expecting some very decent numbers.