lol while my house may be in the booneies, my racetrack is las vegas speedway, or i can go upto rmr in saltlake city, both are about the same distance, vegas is a lil bit closer about a 3 hour ride to vegas,and 3.5 to rmr

 

Try telling that to all the guys who needlessly rebuild 305's and think there's dignity in their slowness because "It's a 305" and they "didn't devalue their cars with a non-original engine"....

 

well if your worried about originality, then leave the 305 alone and keep it in clean running order, like i do, sure maybe the car isn't gonna be worht much one day, but hell its my car and its a damn nice car too

 

Point is that the number of 305 cars that will be worth anything one day are pretty small.

 

i am aware of this opinion, i was choosing not to acknowledge it

 

If it's got a factory stick or a ragtop, then the 305 TPI may be worth something original....anything else and all bets are off.

 

sorry had to bump want to hear more about these badass stage 4 turbos LMFAO

 

Well since someone else bumped it, what did happen to stephen

 

This subject is only discussed in hushed whispers in back allies behind Chinese resteraunts and in unfinished basements during poker/undrground table tennis maches for medeocre sums of money and cheap ugly aftermarket cosmetics, or whatever there is to find under the carpet in their cars. (chinese accent) There is to be no speak of da stephan in dis form, lest you be banned by the councel!

 

hes telling the truth dont bring it up like i do all the time, its not allowed

 

So many of the people on this board make 3rd gen owners look worse.
Anything can be fast. Size doesn't mean ****. Don't be a douche because you don't understand things. 3rd gens are nowhere near fast. 95% of 3rd gens are beat to hell and would get smoked by a stock single cam civic.

There are plenty of civic's and other imports running in the 8's and 9's in a 1/4.

They have a huge weight advantage over most things on the street and can be made quick for cheap.

Example:

Stock b series block with a slightly built head in to a 2100lb civic hatch.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BXjY0MDrqE



13.3 1/4.

That's pretty respectable if you ask me. :dunno:

 

I'd rather be working with a VW golf than a Civic. It's set up more for performance. No intelligent person here stated THIRDGENS ARE KING OF THE HILL AND ARE ALWAYS SUPER FAST!!! They are sporty and were even more so in the HP deprived 1980s. How many cars were pushing 200+hp and 300+lbs tq at that time? Not very many. Creds to the 1990s Scene with awesome cars like the Mazda RX7, Mitsubishi GTO TT (or the Dodge Stealth R/T TT which was pretty much the same thing), Nissan 300ZX TT, Nissan Skyline GTR, and the Toyota Supra TT, but for cars from the 1980s, you couldn't do much better than a Camaro or Mustang.

 

^^ Ugh...no offense but I absolutely HATE VW's. The owners, the style, everything is just retarded. I hate the "slammed on 14's" look, the whole strechted tire thing and how they think it improves handling (LOL). And in all honesty, I have NEVER personally seen a fast VW. On the other hand, I have personally seen more than a few fast civics. Just my .02 cents....figured I'd throw it out there lol.

 

I like th Newest ones and the old V6 R32. But as far as styling I agree with you that I like most civics better. I once saw an old golf (prob the R32 with AWD) desomate everything on the Speed network show Pinks: All out.

 

The newer R32's are pretty nice looking. Not the brand new ones but the 2005ish style. Too bad they are so heavy!

 

Just to add something to this...

A buddy of mine with an '08 Civic, that we added a full exhaust, Injen intake, Jackson Racing Supercharger and Flash Pro tuning to, ran a 13.9 @ 105, with a 2.3 60' and slow shifting, since it was his first time at a track.

The track was crap, I ran 2 passes since it was REALLY busy, got a time slip for only one, they had issues with printing time slips at the big end it seems. I slowed down by 2 tenths, and lost it in the first 60'.

Blew another boost control solenoid as well, time to look for an alternative.

 

That would take most of us down.

My worst loss was to a 1990 civic running low 12s

 

Just tell everyone it was this one lol...

 

gm charcoal can purge soliniods work great

 

That's basically what I'm using.

I tested the first "bad" one again, before tearing it apart to inspect the internals, and it seems to be working, so now I need to investigate deeper. It may be a QDM driver issue.

 

I should have checked back on this thread about a week ago. Funny stuff.

 

if u do find out u are burning them up,these work pretty damn good.
http://www.diyautotune.com/catalog/e...kit-p-285.html

i dont use one myself but i have friends that run them

 

I've been looking at that one actually.

 

everyone i know who runs them has no isses with them, but deff dial back the duty cycle, or u will end up with higher boost then u want

 

So while my pregnant wife doesn't own a VW she wants to own one. Are you implying something about my wife?

 

Why yes...Yes I am...




LOL, jk. I mean it more towards the tuner VW guys, not all the owners of them. The cars in general are ok...still not my fav, but ok. It's just the whole "tuner" crowd that has such a weird vibe to them. Thier style is odd compared to most.

 

Alright im not trying to break up anybodys combos and I know this was posted several pages ago, but I just wanna thank whoever posted this. Idk why but I literally haven't laughed that hard in forever. Maybe it was just so stupid in the middle of all the pointless arguing but for whatever reason thaat made my night haha

 

Last time I saw you post you said you were running mid 13's no joke

Over the years I dislike imports, but as I aged Ive learned to respect all cars Import or Domestic because either one can go fast. Yea I prefer a nice big V8 with rwd but some of these little 4 cylinders can move. The aftermarket is amazing for Japanese cars and is just as strong if not stronger then our cars. So thumbs up to anyone that can make their car fast regardless of their origin!

 

If I had a Giant garage (like Jay Leno), I'd have lots of different types of cars. I'd love a 3000 GTO TT.

 

i agree i would too, and wasn't that one just called the vr4? or am i thinking of a different year

 

3000gt vr4 beautiful cars id love to own one as a driver though.
they are to heavy and costly to make really fast though
but an awsome car nether the less

 

I owned a 91 3000GT, though it was short lived. Not the VR4 but it had the bigger N/A DOHC V6 in it. Very quick stock for an N/a 6 cylinder, and I always felt like I was getting into a ferrari haha. Unfortunately, it spun a rod bearing a few months after I bought it, which apparently is a VERY common problem on those mitsubishi V6's.

 

You import hating old farts you do not know what you are saying just as what was stated the muscle cars of past where slow and boat like and wouldnt come close to out performing imports of today its simple science....i own a 05' subaru STI and i will kill most muscle cars that are streetable, and will beat them on multiple stages and styles of race stop being as imature as the 17 yr old street racer that has a $300 muffler on his sh*t box honda...i also have a 89 firebird and am in process of installing ls1/t-56 and by spring single turbo, and full suspension is complete the money and fabing i have need for this car to get to the same level is much more out of pocket and time....this site is full of "muscle cars" that will get out run by my dirt bike....you people are like the guy who says a six speed is better than paddle shifters...you are completely insane is math just because you can pick on the 17yr old kid wit a honda...try to pick on the 26 yr old wit a real import funny how i hear of you guys beating cars that know one cares about you race the ppl i drive past without seeing (the kinda car you hear but laugh when the thought of races crosses your mind...race a import that isnt a joke...race the guy that 1/8 mile behind him you smell fuel dumping try that guy not the joker who is just learning...MAN UP CHOOSE YOUR BATTLES.....stop writing about the rare wins with run ins with children

 

i always thought about getting a normal 3000gt or dodge stealth and swaping in a v8, though id drive the **** out of one till the stock v6 engine went

they are just awsome looking cars

 

lmao check out the new guy

angry much?????

 

right, wonder what got shoved up his ***.......probly one of those ricers you "hear and laugh at" or so he said, sounds like an idiot to me, or a troll idk but he was indeed awfully angry having probably read only the first and last post of the thread

 

But a 6 speed IS better than paddle shifters. Paddle shifters IMO are gay and I don't care how expensive a clutchless paddle shifted tranny is, I'd take a "proper" manual trans any day of the week.

 

i am guessing an idiot. i used to have a lebaron with the same engine as the 3000gt's it is a like 150 hosre v6. such a fun car. it was the only car i have ever owned that could outrun my dad's stock 5 speed cobalt. i loved the little thing, ran the crap out of it. loved running with the top down and blueish smoke pouring out of the exhaust everywhere i went

 

I know. Where did this guy come from? And no one has ragged on imports for like 3 pages. Who you calling an old fart? 50% of us are under 30. And allot of us are under 20. I'm 17. And I totally complemented the Subi STI a page or two ago.

 

the turbo 2.5 lebarons were even more fun then the v6 cars, my very first car was a 2.2L dodge shadow, i got myself a totaled chyrsler new yorker with the 2.5L turbo 2 motor in it and swaped all the turbo stuff onto my dodge, eventually i ended up with a mopar performance super 60 turbo kit, 300hp lil dodge shadow was tons of fun

 

Have you guys heard of those turbocharged and intercooled Shelby Dodges from the 80's? Those things were quick.

 

we used to have one of those shadows. man, it was a neat car. the wastegate (i think, not a turbo guy) quit operating and the car was getting like 12 or 13 psi. it was cool. that lebaron was the easiest engine i have ever dropped too. easy car to work on.

 

shelby daytona
lebaron
new yorker
shadow
dodge caravan
dodge omni
and a few other cars from the 80's all got the 2.2L and 2.5L turbo motors
and all could be made very fast
foward motion/mopar performance had tons of parts for those motors
turbokits
heads
cams
final drive gear kits
converters
clutches
ecm upgrades
rotating assemblies
hell they even had a bolt in sb mopar crossmember kit for those cars
buy the crossemmber and pick ur sb mopar motor and bolt it in

mine had a self ported head, mopar super 60 turbo kit which was a 300hp turbo kit that u could purchase at just about any dealer
mopar performance turbo cam and some other goodies

i did break more transmissions and axles then anything but that car was so much fun till i rolled it over

to this day i still rember the look on some of the mustang drivers faces as id blow past them

those cars/motors were basically the first srt 4 neons and i belive to this day those cars had more factory support then the newer neon srt4 motors

 

u could always tell which daytona's had the big factory turbo kit though, they came with top mount intercoolers that u had to cut the hood to fit them.in the mid 90's there was tons of those things running around beating up on the camaros and mustangs of the day

 

i got to live a little bit of that in the 90's. its a shame all the fun has been taken out of stock cars with only a few exceptions

 

My brother had a turbo 2.5 van motor that he was swapping into a 95 van. Had the conversion harness and everything. Even got a polished upgraded turbo for it, but ended up selling the motor before the swap. I still to this day wish we got that thing together just to see the looks on peoples faces when a dark green 95 dodge caravan came flying by them, turbo spooling and all.

 

if i remember correctly, my uncle had a dodge van with a turbo engine in it

 

Very likely, Dodge did make them.

 

I have to agree I raced a 95 civic with a h22 swap with a 72 olds cutlass with a worked 455 525hp and he beat me by half a car length. I couldnt belive it bc the cutlass is a beast

 

my uncle had one too i laughed my *** off when i heard the turbo spool up for the first time but they were Mitsubishi motors in a dodge anyway