the turbocharged 2.2 and 2.5L motors were not mitsu engines
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chrysle...%26_2.5_engine

 

they were not Mitsubishi engines. the mitsubishi motor i was refering to was the 3.0 v6 in my lebaron. if i remember correctly from some reading, the turbo dodge motors were carrol shelby's idea

 

We had one when I was little. Like, really little. It was a cool van, especially with that turbo. Untill the engine blew...

 

And pickle is right. To the best of my knowlage those motors were shelby derived.

 

that is what happened to my uncle's van too

 

dodge/chrysler designed the engine shelby tweaked it

 

Yes. Thats what I meant. To the best of my knowlage shelby never created an engine from the gound up.

 

no, but he was good at what he did. he helped design the dodge dakota, one of my personal favorites.

 

My favorite car he had his hand in was the Dodge Viper GTS. That might be my favorite car ever. And thats saying allot cause I have allot of faves. Pickle, I like the R/T Dakota as well.

 

i love all of the dakotas to be honest with you. i drive an 89 with a 3.9L v6. not a very fast truck but you wouldnt beleive the things we have pulled with that v6. like a hauled a ram charger with it for around 40 miles. truck noticed it for sure, but it didnt hurt the thing at all. plus it has over 250,000 miles and still runs strong

 

I died laughing at the OP's post. Talk about being ignorant... I'm all about the american cars but I can name 3 local Hondas that will run next to some of the fastest 3rd gens on here. How's mid 9 to low 10 seconds at speeds of 140+ MPH sound to you?

I sure as hell know my old 454 IROC would have gotten stomped... same goes to my nitrous motor and my LT1.

 

slow engines, nothing next to a 1.6L

 

you mean like this?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=78InPT4iqlw

then you have this little guy
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=haPCQKOyMTo

then you have this little project. not a minivan but uses the dodge minivan turbo motor
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C7-5I...eature=related


or this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_VUT...eature=related
oh wait that's a honda

 

Why do they think their econoboxes are fast? Thats probably the same thing some porsche or corvette owner is thinking when he's sitting next to you at a light.. And just as you may have actually done something to your third gen that may allow you to surprise him, the honda owner may have actually done something to his to surprise you. And I'm here to tell you, I work in a tire shop and there are just as many, if not more V6 mustangs and camaros that come in with absolutely pointless modifications such as an ebay chrome intake tube sucking hot air from behind the radiator or the catalytic converter hacked out, clear tail lights, thinking their stuff is fast as there are goofy looking hondas and toyotas. And I've owned 4 turbo cars: one american, two japanese, and one German. And to be honest, on the interstate or a stretch of road any one of them would give my 90 RS a black eye.

 

Maybe they are just hoping honda makes this

http://www.autoblog.com/2011/11/04/2...-supercharged/

But seriously if you take 2 seconds off your 1/4 you will think you are fast too unfortunately for most civics (and some 305s) that means running late 15s

 

LMAO!!!....a twist blower hangen off the side and every thing....lol

what they forgot is honduh + v6 + civic = [FAIL]

 

I would drive a supercharged v6 accord I have watched stock 270 models pull a 13.9 and average low 14s with an extra 65 HP could be a lot of fun. Hell at 335hp probably puts a lot of us to shame.

 

Not going to lie, I would drive that car over almost ANY thirdgen ever made. I'm sure it has all the luxury's, an excellent ride quality, and is probably faster than almost all thirdgens. Throw a supercharger pulley on with a tune and you'll probably be up to around 400 HP. Thats very impressive for a 4 door grocery getter with a V6.

 

.....NO comment.....

 

 

 

Glad to see someone from Topeka.Thats why we put built big blocks in our camaros.
So when a ***** pulls up all he sees is our tail lights thru the smoke clould.
Then the former rice owner goes out an buys a third gen,Then he has true happiness.

 

One of the huge dissadvantages turbocharged cars (usually Japanese cars) have down here in Texas is the HEAT factor. Heat affects every engine, but especially turbocharged cars. On a regular summer day here in Texas it's usually between 90 and 110 degrees, and that will have a HUGE impact on a car that relies mostly on a Turbocharger for it's power. Those cars usually do best in temps below 70 degrees.

 

I like both my riceburner and my third gen

My Galant VR4 gets good mileage and really pisses off most "muscle cars" and civics alike at the stoplights, since no one has ever seen a fast 4 door Galant before.... (its not that fast, prolly around 200hp at the wheels.)


My GTA because there's nothing better than a v8. Period, end of story. Truth be told, I like driving that thing slow on the streets, I don't even bother to "race" anybody at the stoplights. I can't wait to get a set of stickys on it and take it to the strip, but it didn't happen this season. The only indication that its not stock is the idle, so its cool when someone comes up and says something like, "that thing's not stock, is it."

 

Let me guess.....hmmmmmm. Your car has a V6 in it? Or maybe a 5.0 TBI? AMIRIGHT?

Anybody who is ignorant enough to say "riceburner this" and "riceburner that" and gives no respect to anything but what they drive probably owns a slow car themselves.

 

What's wrong with Tbi? And I happen to throw riceburner around alot, I live in the hornets nesyt of civics and integras but there's quite a few imports I wouldn't mind getting my hands on lol

Btw on the subject of Honda's why in gods name is there always some plush toy or car emblem hanging from the rear bumper hook? And the "track hitches" that extend out of the bumpers that do no good except for capping you at the shins? The damn things aren't even bolted to the frame

 

Nothings wrong with TBI....just that it has no performance aspect to it really, and very little for aftermarket support.

As for the towhooks, I can't even tell you how many times I've smashed my leg on the one on my buddies scion. I'm about ready to rip it off and stick it in his "you know what."

 

Who said anything about ***** burners?

my car has the1 of 2 that they put in 3rdgens, L98 aka the stump puller. I dont care what any body else drives, I hate moose-stangs though and im cool with the subie guys....to learn their 2-stepping ways, earn their trust, find out whos running a forged motor and what not....they dont know that ill be hunting them next year with my new setup. Ill have a huge box wing trophy for ever 1 that I take down.

 

my iroc is going on a strict rice and stang diet, cant wait to run into one of the new 5.0 stangs

 

Is that a twin turbocharged TPI 350? Noice.

 

yeah forged bottom end 4 bolt block ported 882's port matched tpi, cam twin 57mm turbos 21+ #'s of boost

 

That's scary.

 

I gotta say that my 2.4 engine (not sure if it's a Mitsubishi engine or not...never cared) in my SRT-4 I once owned was impressive. I beat the holy crap out of that engine and also did a .50 trim turbo with all the bolt on mods, and I ran 26 psi on race fuel for 2 years, and I TRIED to break that engine, but it just would not break, and I kept the internals completely stock. Pretty darn fast little SRT-4, too. I was putting down 450 hp to the fronts on a cool day in Arizona. I loved pulling on most Vettes and Stangs and Camaros, once my tires caught the asphalt he he he.

I love my third gen Camaro, though. Nothing like a V-8

I had a Mitsubishi Mirage or some crap (had no money left for a decent grocery getter after sinking it all into my SRT-4) to get me to work and back, and that engine was a piece of crap.

 

I love the way a V8 feels. You can just feel the raw power. Not like in cars like a Lotus Elise, where you can just feel that it weighs nothing and thats why it goes fast.

 

Would you consider my new Grand Prix GTP a tuner car?









The body is a little rough and needs the driver window put back on the tracks but otherwise it's in good shape meaning no rust but it has some hail damage. Also has a factory bose sound system but I can't hear it because of the lack of a radio (the seller left me one in the back seat but its kind of old and ugly). It has an MSD ignition, ram air (not through the hood), body kit, new hood and spoiler, aftermarket rims, aftermarket tail lights, factory supercharger, new windshield, rotors, pads, and a 5 month old transmission that shifts smooth as silk. You don't even feel the shifts but when you floor it you get the satisfying whine of the supercharger...and it can chirp em all the way past 20 mph. lol

 

thats not scary whats scary is i have a 2 stage nitrous system for the car as well

25shot out of the hole and an additional 75hp shot down track, still need to pick up some bottles and blow down tubes so i can install the system though

 

Yah. It just went from super fast, to F U fast.

 

Meth injection cures the heat problem...turbo cars still run hard as they can increase boost if needed to compensate for air quality. N/A cars still suffer in heat just as bad if not more. I'd still rather be turbo than n/a any day of the week.



as far as mitsubishi motors go, my local shop's car (Evo) just set the world record for stock block/stock internals/stock cams/stock turbo ET at MIR last weekend. It ran 10.51 at over 127mph....

how many factory cars can go from high 12's to mid 10's with no major mods?

 

they don't even sound good it is really sad my son had a rice burner he shortened it so my car would fit in the driveway it did not corner as nice as a T/A. I took the same corner he did at 60+ he took it at 50 and plowed into another car (no one was hurt and I tried it out the next day in my car. little cars no wheel base small tires and a bag of rice in the tank idiot behind the wheel now he owns an 83 buick mid size it doesn't have enough power to get out of its own way)

 

Welcome to the club.




I already started modding mine. Already upgraded pulley's to a 3.4 with supporting mods and this thing goes for being a family car. This thing feels faster than my old 305 and my old 305 was far from stock.


GTPs are fun cars. I was gonna get another 3rd gen but after seeing this car and driving it around and the history behind it, I just coudn't pass it up.


Anyways back to the topic at hand. Continue your blindless bickering.

 

Wow, thats a real nice way to talk about your son. You sound like such a loving father...

 

Well this thread is going south again.

 

Can i be in the club too? LOL its not a GTP but its a regal GSE, but still has the supercharged 3800 series in it

 

i love how my camaro handles (stock suspension). thats y i enjoyed doing autox events. anyway i see the pontiac and camaro cars as sports cars as they are close to the ground and have a wide wheel base with suspension that can compete with current vehicles. hondas and toyotas both have fwd (i do mean affordable hondas/toyotas) which is a real disadvantage and correct me if im wrong but i dont remember seeing any hondas or toyotas in le-mans

 

We didn't even have the title it sat in the drive way for 3 weeks I was alitte harsh, but I bought it for him $1700.00. I ended up with higher car insurance and a 1700.00 Costco battery that some how survived.

 

They are expensive but don't forget the nsx. They are deadly in autox

 

I don't think any sane persone here can moch the NSX. Cause the NSX is awesome.

 

Honda hatchbacks (and most hatchbacks for the matter) make excellent auto X cars due to them having no weight overhanging the front or rear tires. My little POS 1990 civic hatchback has winter tires on it and I'd put it up against a 3rd gen in handling anytime. The thing amazes me how fast it can corner and still keep it's ground, and I've pushed it HARD lol. It's so light that it never feels like it's pushing itself around corners. Just turns and goes.

 

i knew some1 would bring up the NSX which is y i tired to emphasize affordable lol. honda s2000 are seen a lot in autox events an there much cheaper. i dont like honda hatchbacks because of how small they are (my head hits the headliner in my camaro). Dont like VW because it seems every person owns one. if i was to get a hatchback it would be a volvo c30 if only it wasnt a fwd car maybe shove a v8 in there

 

Aren't those new Volvo hot hatch backs awd? The R designs come with like 230 hp I know that much, and they made a prototype that produced over 400 with the same engine (more or less).