Ok.. My friend has a 3.4L Camaro (newer, not sure of year) its an auto.. conv..
I have a 92 RS 3.1 5spd hard top...
from a dead stop... who would win???

 

Couldn't tell ya from a dead stop, but starting to race at about 35-40:

me- 2.8, auto, hard top
friend- 3.4, auto, t-top (tops on)

both cars all stock

I won.

 

well
i have a k&n and a Flowmaster... and I was bout two car lengths by 70...
i was proud...

 

I don't think so. You are trying to say that your 17 second car beat a 15 second car. Especially from a roll because he can't fu(k that up (spinning). Gotta raise the BS flag here folks. Unless he was pushing the damn thing, it didn't happen.

 

Same goes for you.

 

ok you have to remeber that the camaro is a convertable and an auto. it is an electronically controlled tranny, which means he cant rev past 5500. if the 3.4 is stock, it also has the horrible restrictive intake and 3.23 gears. the 3.1 has 3.42 and a 5 speed with a decent intake. also, the 5 speed 3.1 can run mid 16's if in good tuning. my 95 3.4 just ran a 15.9 stock. and thats not a convertable. figure a convertable has another 300 pounds or so more. my 88 ran a 16.8 with nothing but chopped air boxes.

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1995 Camaro
3.4 with 4L60E
Stock...for now

Currently being redone:

1988 Camaro
2.8 with T5
threw a rod...
Soon to have a 350 TPI out of an '85 vette...
http://www.nothingssafe.com

 

Is there a fear of losing here? Just race him and tell us how it went. The thrill is in the race. Victory just adds to the fun.

A 3.1 isn't that far behind a 3.4 for power and torque. The gearing and efficiency of a 5-speed manual is enough to make up the difference against a 3.4 with auto trans. It all comes down to the drivers.

Even if it was an auto 3.1, it doesn't take many mods to match or exceed the power of a stock 3.4.

 

To me this is REAL close...I have all sorts of road tests, and a 3.4 auto hardtop did 0-60 in 9.7, while a 3.1/auto was about 10.5...your 5 speed should be about 10.2

I say you guys will be VERY close...hard to pick a winner, but due to the torque and the ease of racing an auto, I pick him...

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Jason E

'89 Camaro RS
-Medium Grey Metallic
-2.8, A4, T-tops, 94k miles
-Hypertech chip, Accel wires/coil/K&Ns
-Alpine 60x4 and Bostons

'97 Z28
-30th Anniversary package (white with orange stripes)
-LT1, M6, t-tops, 45k miles
-Eclipse CD and 10" Aluminum sub in JL Audio Stealth box, Boston RM speakers, Xtant 403a amp

Speed Kills...Wanna live forever? Drive a Ford.
Long Live #3...

 

well, I'll tell you how it went...
we pulled up to a light... flat ground too (kinda hard to find around here)
and the light turned green, I put it to the floor and my back end was at his front by the time we got through the intersection... probably bout 2-3 car lengths by 70 mph, when i let off...
Oh, and bout the BS flag raisin.... well, put it down...
oh, and I have 3.73 rear gears (stock)
so i guess that helped too...

 

I think he raised the BS flag on the guy with the $hitty iron duke lookin POS 2.8 just trounchin a 3.4 in a newer camaro.... it wasnt even close.... he wasted him.... all the 3.4 saw was taillights.... BS

 

Good job NXS055. My friend has a 94 camaro with a 3.4, 5 speed and hardtop. And I beat him. He runs consistant 18's at the track. And as far as the 3.4 running a 15.9 bone stock, you must have got a freak of nature car or something because if you go to camaroz28.com and talk to them, they barely have the 3.8 liter V6 doing that stock. The 3.8 in the 96-97 camaros has 40 more hp and torque than the 3.4. If your car runs that stock, HECK YEAH YOU GOT A FAST ONE!! I wish my friends was close to that because he is very disappointed in his car. And as far as all these B.S. flags raising, you guys are dumb, the 3.4 isn't THAT much faster than a 2.8. It is also how good the owners take care of their cars. Especially since the fourth gens are heavier. And that one NXS055 raced is an auto and convertable, that would make it a lot slower.There's some 2.8's on the v6 board that could take an stock LO3. Don't underestimate all of them. Oh and by the way, an iron duke is a 4 cylinder not the 2.8.

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1992 Polo Green RS 3.1L K&N conical and working on the ram air....

"Yeah, it's a V6 SO WHAT!?"

[This message has been edited by elevario (edited October 22, 2001).]

 

There's something about the 4th gen v6's. Seems like lots of them get spanked by thirdgenner v6's. I've driven a 94 3.4 auto and that thing is SLOW. My bro on the other hand has a 95 3.8 auto and thats a different story.

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85 2.8L Sport Coupe 5-speed.
Mods: Hpertech chip and powerstat, MSD 6A-L, Crane fireball coil, Accel Cap and Rotor, Dynomax hi-flow cat and catback system with a dynomax magnum race bullet muffler on the i-pipe, K&N filterchargers, Gutted Air Boxes, 8mm Wires, Eibach Sportlines and Tokiko springs/shocks setup, Global west sub frames, Suspension techniqs front and rear sway bars, and good ole 88 IROC wheels with Kumo Ecstas on em!
"It's not the ricers, it's those damn V8's!"

Wins: 2000 V6 Accord, 69 302 Mustang, 2000 Auto VR6 Jetta, 89 Toyota MR2, 90 Civic Si, 76 350 Camaro, 2000 3.8 5-speed Camaro, ~68 Chevelle 350, 92 CRX Si, 94 MR2 non-turbo.

https://www.thirdgen.org/rides/index.tgo?action=view&rideid=4880

 

Yeah, those 3.8's are SICK!!! Very nice v6.

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1992 Polo Green RS 3.1L K&N conical and working on the ram air....

"Yeah, it's a V6 SO WHAT!?"

 

Actually, you should have 3.42 gears stock. Take it to 70 in your 1:1 gear (4th) and read the RPM, it should be 3420 rpm if it's stock, unless you have wierd tire sizes or something.

Really, a 3.4 may have a 20 more horsies (160 hp stock) but not really noticable in a 3800 lb car against a car with 140. Good for high 16/low 17 second runs. The auto is killing him, as is any auto kills a car that has virtually no power, and bad gearing. That ragtop is killing him too, they add so much structure just to make it stronger.

You have the advantage of a 3.42 gear, not to mention a short-geared t-5. Torque multiplication is quite decent on a 92 3.1. As with any 700R4/4L60E, the gearing will be more aimed at economy rather than performance.

But, the extra power the 3.4 produces, he should be put about even with you. You could possibly be a little faster, not by much. Weight/Gearing plays a roll in your favor.

Yeah, some 2.8s could beat the L03, but not stock to stock. The L03 is very efficient for a V8. GM engineers are geniuses when it comes to the most power/most economy balancing. But by all means not a powerful motor. Economical, yes. Reliable like any other Chevy V8, certainly.

Seriously, I raced my Formula (L03, my friend was driving it) with my Mustang GT, and I instantly pulled 20 carlenths and never looked back. A stock Mustang could probably pull 10 carlengths on a stock L03. In my case, my Mustang isn't stock.

But I still love cruisin' in my Formula, much nicer, comfortable, and quiet.

If I want to smoke people, smell like exhaust, lose an eardrum, and have fun going fast, not to mention having the same comfort a truck would have, I drive my Mustang.

I drive the Topaz if I feel like being noticed.

-Todd-

Edited, for my typographical error.

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1989 Formula WS6
Recently re-converted back to bone-stock for economy.
-L03, Auto, 2.73, etc.
Best Run(formerly modified): 14.1 @ 97 mph.
Recent Run(Stock): 16.1 @ 83 mph.
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1988 Mustang GT
-T-tops, E-303 Cam/1.6 rollers, 3.73 gears, Auto, 4" cowl,
fiberglass hatch, Hooker headers into Flowmaster 40s, and much more.
Best run: 13.87 @ 98 mph.
=========================
1991 Mercury Topaz
-2.3 HSC I4, Auto, winter beater.
=========================
1986 Buick Regal
-Drag car project for my built Olds 403 V8.

[This message has been edited by ws6formula89 (edited October 27, 2001).]

 

I don't mean to argue or anything...
But when I put in my RPO codes here on the site it told me that I had 3.73 rear gears...
So, I'm not sure.... everything else was right on the RPOs so its not that its a piece of another car or something...
Did the 92s not come with 3.73?
I just know what the decoder told me
please correct me if I'm wrong
thanks

 

I don't know, just do that and see for sure, I didn't mean to pose an argument. Just going by gathered facts.

-Todd-

Edited, for my typographical error. Welp, time to put my helmet back on.


[This message has been edited by ws6formula89 (edited October 27, 2001).]

 

well, i know for sure its higher than that...
cuz riding at 60 in fourth its riding just below 3000 rpms
so it'll probably be quite a bit more...
but i'll check on my way to work this evenin...
i'll get back to you tonight

 

I'd like to apologize, you were right, it rides at bout that rmp...
so what does that mean??
I'll get the rpo off of it this evening or tomorrow... I'll post it...
Thanks for the help fellas

 

I never said that I wasted hm or anything like that. All I meant was that when we both got on it from 35-40, I pulled ahead and he never managed to get ahead of me.

 

Actually, I did a typo. I actually typed 3240 (and even quoted it too!) when I meant 3420 rpm.

It just means you have a 3.42:1 rear gear ratio. You don't know how many people would kill to have 3.42s in a V8 car.

No need to apologize, we're all buds. Cool?

-Todd-

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1989 Formula WS6
Recently re-converted back to bone-stock for economy.
-L03, Auto, 2.73, etc.
Best Run(formerly modified): 14.1 @ 97 mph.
Recent Run(Stock): 16.1 @ 83 mph.
=========================
1988 Mustang GT
-T-tops, E-303 Cam/1.6 rollers, 3.73 gears, Auto, 4" cowl,
fiberglass hatch, Hooker headers into Flowmaster 40s, and much more.
Best run: 13.87 @ 98 mph.
=========================
1991 Mercury Topaz
-2.3 HSC I4, Auto, winter beater.
=========================
1986 Buick Regal
-Drag car project for my built Olds 403 V8.

 

well, let me ask you a question
does it always work like that???
say for example if it were 3.73 would the rpm at 70 be 3730???
hmm... i swear i thought the rpo said 3.73 though... i don't have anything else to do this evening. so, i'll check the rpo's again, and see if i can find the one that told me that....
thanks....
of course, we are all buds

 

It only does that if your speedo is calibrated for that particular gear. Say you still had a 3.42 speedo gear...with 3.73 gears, the speedometer would read much higher, thus making that method useless.

-Todd-

 

I'd say if you know how to shift you could get the pull on him. To me its giong to be a close race.

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1988 Sport Coupe 305 TBI
K&N
Flowmaster 80


Daily driver:
1988 K1500 5.7 4x4 shortbed flowmaster cat-back gutted cat.
AIM: RyanNH84

 

Actually the tach would read 3420 rpm's with 3:42 gears.


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"Rice burners are like tampons...Every pu$$y has to have one"
'86 IROC
T-TOPS, TINTED WINDOWS, BRAKE LIGHT BLACKOUTS
GM GOODWRENCH 350
EDELBROCK TES HEADERS
3" Hooker CatBack w/Aero Chamber muffler
EDELBROCK 600CFM CARB.
KN AIRFILTER
ACCEL HEI DISTRIBUTOR
160* Stat, just switched to 180* b/c of winter coming and going to college in the mts.
3:73 Posi
Rebuilt 700R4
B&M Megashifter, 5" Autometer Tach w/shift lite

 

Sorry, I guess I should have finished reading all the posts, I see you corrected your mistake.

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"Rice burners are like tampons...Every pu$$y has to have one"
'86 IROC
T-TOPS, TINTED WINDOWS, BRAKE LIGHT BLACKOUTS
GM GOODWRENCH 350
EDELBROCK TES HEADERS
3" Hooker CatBack w/Aero Chamber muffler
EDELBROCK 600CFM CARB.
KN AIRFILTER
ACCEL HEI DISTRIBUTOR
160* Stat, just switched to 180* b/c of winter coming and going to college in the mts.
3:73 Posi
Rebuilt 700R4
B&M Megashifter, 5" Autometer Tach w/shift lite

 

That doesn't mattter, the speedo gear being off only affects the speedometer, not the tachometer, so it will always work, unless you have changed stock tire height.

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"Rice burners are like tampons...Every pu$$y has to have one"
'86 IROC
T-TOPS, TINTED WINDOWS, BRAKE LIGHT BLACKOUTS
GM GOODWRENCH 350
EDELBROCK TES HEADERS
3" Hooker CatBack w/Aero Chamber muffler
EDELBROCK 600CFM CARB.
KN AIRFILTER
ACCEL HEI DISTRIBUTOR
160* Stat, just switched to 180* b/c of winter coming and going to college in the mts.
3:73 Posi
Rebuilt 700R4
B&M Megashifter, 5" Autometer Tach w/shift lite

 

thanks a bundle guys....
I preciate all the info...
and I did beat him... bad, and i liked it... a lot...
i want to go faster, much much faster....
its like a disease isn't it
not one i want to cure i think

 

Yeah, I know it doesn't affect tachometer function. I'm not a retard or anything.

But if your speedometer is off 15 mph, like my Mustang is (changed to 3.73s), then you won't have an accurate reading at 70 mph. To actually determine ratios using RPM, you can certainly use the equations at this site ( https://www.thirdgen.org/tech/calculations.shtml ), if you feel the speedometer is off.

I do 50 in a 35 all the time and I don't get pulled over. I have the speedo gear but I'm too lazy to put it in.

-Todd-

[This message has been edited by ws6formula89 (edited October 26, 2001).]

 

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[This message has been edited by CaliCamaroRS (edited October 27, 2001).]

 

so you V8 guys want some 3.42's huh? how about a t-5 to go with it? anyone want a complete 88 SC with a blown 2.8? email me

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1995 Camaro
3.4 with 4L60E
Stock...for now

Currently being redone:

1988 Camaro
2.8 with T5
threw a rod...
Soon to have a 350 TPI out of an '85 vette...
http://www.nothingssafe.com

 

blown???
would that fit my 3.1???

 

Hmm that's odd?? I beat 2.8s,3.1s, and TBI's with my Slow 4th gen....hmmm??
Maybe they're made faster in VA


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1998 Ford Ranger 3.0 Cold air intake and flowmaster exhaust.
FOR SALE: 1995 Red T-Top Camaro...Got a ticket, now my insurance is too high...
1989 5.0 RS

 

so, will that blower fit my 3.1??
wouldn't that be cool...
hahahaha

 

uno, my man
it would appear that you havn't found a 3rd gen 6er who knows how to drive...
where at in VA ya live... cuz i'm residin in the good old commonwealth (communist) state myself
hahaha

 

lol, no i meant with a blown engine, i.e, threw a rod.

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1995 Camaro
3.4 with 4L60E
Stock...for now

Currently being redone:

1988 Camaro
2.8 with T5
threw a rod...
Soon to have a 350 TPI out of an '85 vette...
http://www.nothingssafe.com

 

Down near bristol....where are you?



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1998 Ford Ranger 3.0 Cold air intake and flowmaster exhaust.
FOR SALE: 1995 Red T-Top Camaro...Got a ticket, now my insurance is too high...
1989 5.0 RS

 

Bristol??
wow, I'm closer to Abingdon but the same area...
thats so cool...

isn't this the most exciting place to live you've ever seen.... hahahaha
(sarcasm abounds)

 

well actually i live 45 minutes from bristol, i live in castlewood....but i didn't figure anybody would know any place but bristol...i hang out in abingdon sometimes...my sister's boyfriend lives there...he has the lowered silver f-150 with
IB LEGAL on the tags...maybe you've seen it...yeah, LOL there is so much excitement here...

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1998 Ford Ranger 3.0 Cold air intake and flowmaster exhaust.
FOR SALE: 1995 Red T-Top Camaro...Got a ticket, now my insurance is too high...
1989 5.0 RS

[This message has been edited by uno (edited October 29, 2001).]

 

Double post.



[This message has been edited by uno (edited October 29, 2001).]

 

Dude, this is strange...
are you stalking me? hahaha
I graduated from CHS last year...
hahaha
What a small world
Where at in Castlewood do you live??

 

LOL no....but that's cool
i live down Mew Road
I graduated from SPHS in 2000


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1998 Ford Ranger 3.0 Cold air intake and flowmaster exhaust.
FOR SALE: 1995 Red T-Top Camaro...Got a ticket, now my insurance is too high...
1989 5.0 RS

 

Mew Road??
this is just freaky...
I live in Ervintown, know where that is?
so, tell me bout ya car so i can look for ya

mine is a 92 RS black with a red pinstripe, and a dent in the hood
hahaha

 

well i have two
but one is for sale
1995 Red T-Top Camaro Dual 3" Chrome tips, flomaster exhaust, 3.73 gears,K&N F.I.P.K.,IAT mod, Gutted Cat, Centerforce Clutch...I have no tags on this one and i'm trading it this week to a friend for an 89 Z-28 plus 3000 dollars cash....it will be white
my 89 rs is purple with two yellow racing stripes down it and a hi rise spoiler in the back and really close to the ground.....but i drive my truck everyday now that it's gettin cold, 98 black ford ranger RAD10 on the tags, 285/75 R16 M+S tires

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1998 Ford Ranger 3.0 Cold air intake and flowmaster exhaust.
FOR SALE: 1995 Red T-Top Camaro...Got a ticket, now my insurance is too high...
1989 5.0 RS

 

hmm
don't think i've seen ya (that i noticed)
purple with yellow racing stripes, i think i woulda remembered that....
but it doesn't ring a bell....
where bouts down mew do you live?
and how old are ya...
like i said i live in Ervintown (hence Cody Ervin) and I'm 18...