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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 05:23 PM
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Fast Burn heads and TPI setup? Will the baseplate bolt on?

I'm looking and looking and the next option on my list is the Fastburn 385 Engine with LT4 Hot Cam Upgrade from
Scoggin Dickey.

Horsepower: 430 hp @ 6000 rpm
Torque: 430 ft/lbs @ 4400 rpm
Compression Ratio: 9.6 to 1
Duration @ .050" I/E: 218/228
Lift I/E: .525"/.525"
Block: 350 Cast Iron 4 Bolt 1 Piece Rear Seal
Crank: GM 1053 Forged Steel
Heads cc: Fastburn 62cc
Intake: GM Aluminum Dual Plane

The block uses fastburn angle plug aluminum heads and my question of concern becuase I want to go tuned port is will the TPI baseplate or LT1 intake bolt onto the Fast Burn heads from GM?
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 05:34 PM
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Only thing I can tell you, Talk to scoogin and asked will the new vortec intake base work on the fastburn heads? I think they are the same design, but I'm not sure.
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 05:40 PM
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I was also thinking about using the StealthRam MFPI Intake Manifold
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by pennylessz28
I was also thinking about using the StealthRam MFPI Intake Manifold
...which won't bolt up to Vortec/FastBurn heads...
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 07:37 PM
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That is true. Why don't you try the MINI RAM III?
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 08:46 PM
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PennylessZ28- Either a miniram III, a modified LT4 intake, or the scoggin-dickey TPI intake base. There are your three options I believe.



*A stock TPI intake base will NOT work!!! Lata
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 09:09 PM
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The RamJet intake is another good option. Not many people, if any are using it. Do a search, there is a really long tread from a year ago with tons of info on it, including all the part numbers.
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 08:19 AM
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I thought the Fastburns have dual bolt patterns. ???
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 10:52 AM
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I thought the Fastburns have dual bolt patterns. ???

I'm not sure about the dual bolt pattern, but ehy are still raised port heads right? And the ports are NOT going to match up to traditional SBC intakes... right?? Just curious now!
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 11:22 AM
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The alignment issue is a problem, pic below is on a Vortec head but intake port geometries are similar:

http://members.fbody.com/kevinc/vortec/

I updated the URL to point to the directory...something going on at the server, just click on the only pic in the directory.

Last edited by kevinc; Nov 7, 2002 at 05:40 PM.
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 01:36 PM
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Bad Pic, I think.
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 09:21 PM
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the heads are vortec... i didnt know if u guys talked about that yet.... but they are vortec.. u will need to get the new tpi intake if ur gunna go with that.... ok
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 11:52 PM
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The Fast Burn heads have both the standard and Vortec bolt holes drilled in them. They do have the raised Vortec style intake ports though. The stock TPI base would bolt up to them but it's just a matter of whether or not they will have enough material to seal over the head's intake ports. The ports will definitely not line up nice though. I took an LT4 intake, which has raised ports already, and modified it to fit the Fast Burn heads. The ports almost line up perfectly. There was only very minor porting that had to be done on the top of the LT4 intake ports. Do a search for LT4 intake and you should find some posts where I explain the swap in more detail.
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 01:03 AM
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Thanks, I think i will ask the two manufactuars.
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Old Nov 9, 2002 | 07:19 AM
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You need to use a vortec style intake with those heads. I've been there and done that.
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 12:49 PM
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I'd go Mini-Ram III myself.

The E-Tec 200 heads by Edelbrock are comparable to the GM Fast Burns. Check 'em out.
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 03:10 PM
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Alright you peopel done lost me and confused me, the Fastburn heads have the dual bolt patern I know. But they are not the same as vortec heads.

Now, I know the SDPP TPI will bolt up, its designed for it.

But uh, how well does that LT4 bolt up and the Miniramm-III you are talking about, no one mentioned how it goes on just to try it.
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Old Nov 11, 2002 | 03:26 PM
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Originally posted by un4givin89
Alright you peopel done lost me and confused me, the Fastburn heads have the dual bolt patern I know. But they are not the same as vortec heads.

Now, I know the SDPP TPI will bolt up, its designed for it.

But uh, how well does that LT4 bolt up and the Miniramm-III you are talking about, no one mentioned how it goes on just to try it.
the Mini-Ram III has the traditional (86-down) bolt pattern and works w/ the Fast Burn heads - this is a combo that TPIS.com has done a lot with; I'd call 'em. I think the 440hp combo that was in Car Craft or Hot Rod late last year had it.

The LT4 & LT1 intakes have the oddly angled (like 87-up middle 4 bolts) bolt pattern on all 12 bolts and will not bolt up.

I wouldn't go w/ Fast Burns and then bother with a SDPP TPI base; too much rpm limitation.
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