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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 09:57 PM
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smog equipment delete, will this cause engine light

i want to get rid of all that air injection crap to clean up the engine bay, will this cause a check engine light
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 11:10 PM
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not sure... but so far mine has not
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 11:15 PM
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Not on my 1990 Iroc. Smog pump and air tubes are gone, as well as other miscellanious crap.
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Old Jun 24, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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No CE light will activate.

However for proper operation of the rest of the systems, you should have a custom chip made to completely disable the AIR settings as they do affect the 02 sensor when active. Its an offset

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Old Jun 25, 2006 | 04:20 PM
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The ECM only monitors the EGR to make sure its working. That said, removing your emissions equipment from a street car is a federal offense, regardless of your state's emissions rules. If caught, you can be punished by a fine, jail time, or both.
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Old May 31, 2009 | 10:33 PM
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Re: smog equipment delete, will this cause engine light

you can remove everything but the egr i would leave that to prevent any problems
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 12:48 AM
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pull all that junk out and unhook the egr valve ive deleted the whole tpi system no codes on stock ecu
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 12:57 AM
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Re: smog equipment delete, will this cause engine light

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The ECM only monitors the EGR to make sure its working. That said, removing your emissions equipment from a street car is a federal offense, regardless of your state's emissions rules. If caught, you can be punished by a fine, jail time, or both.



kevin we keep on doing this little dance, illegal versus street legal. lets just agree to dissagree.

yes, its illegal to tamper with emissions stuff yadda yadda

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yes, it gets in the way. yes you can remove all that stuff and still pass smog, yes, itll clean up the engine bay.

but the decision is up to you.

and no it wont set off a CEL
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 01:19 AM
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Re: smog equipment delete, will this cause engine light

i have a ? how many block off plates do i need when i remove the rest of my emmisions. i know 1 for the egr and wheres the other also where can i get these plates. also what do i do about the vacume line that goes to the egr
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 07:32 AM
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Re: smog equipment delete, will this cause engine light

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... yes you can remove all that stuff and still pass smog.....
It certainly won't pass a visual inspection anywhere legitimate, so I'm not sure what you mean by that.
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 06:04 PM
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It certainly won't pass a visual inspection anywhere legitimate, so I'm not sure what you mean by that.

sorry, i meant, it could still pass smog where visual inspections arent done or enforced very well
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 08:47 PM
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Re: smog equipment delete, will this cause engine light

in some states they only look 4 a catalitic converter and do tail pipe emisions and check engine light for 95 and after
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 10:36 PM
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The EGR doesn't use engine vacuum, it source is throttle body ported vacuum nothing else should be using that port's vacuum.
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Old Jun 1, 2009 | 11:28 PM
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Re: smog equipment delete, will this cause engine light

so what do i do just block that vacume line that goes from the egr to the plenum
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 01:08 AM
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Re: smog equipment delete, will this cause engine light

Keep the stuff on your car. Eventually Obama is going to make every state do emissions testing as he tries to create a happy green USA for us all to live in. If you dont have the parts its going to cost you a LOT of money to buy them again.

Also, in the meantime, every time you remove your emissions devices, you are telling the smog-***** that the current laws are not tough enough to stop you, so now they have to write tougher laws that affect the rest of us. Thanks a lot!

We here in SoCal have proven that you can have a fast TPI car and still pass the emissions test. You dont have to remove anything because its not going to give you much gain, if anything at all. I removed my a/c and I can access both sides of my engine very easily, even with the AIR lines.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 06:08 AM
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Re: smog equipment delete, will this cause engine light

apparently they put something in the water in California to brainwash people
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 07:58 AM
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Re: smog equipment delete, will this cause engine light

Kevin91Z is right. Emissions testing is not going away, eventually it will be in your county no matter where you live. I'm proud that my 20 year old car runs cleaner and gets better mileage than a brand new pickup.
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 12:05 PM
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Re: smog equipment delete, will this cause engine light

im certain that after a certain age there will be exceptions to the laws...
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 02:01 PM
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Re: smog equipment delete, will this cause engine light

Here in Ontario, anything '88 and newer must have an emissions test every other year....
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 04:13 PM
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in tennessee anything after 74 has to go thru emissions accept 1 tons and diesiels
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Old Jun 2, 2009 | 10:49 PM
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Re: smog equipment delete, will this cause engine light

smog pump, air tubes, and cat are gone on mine and no problems from that. Still have the EGR hooked up though
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Old Sep 6, 2022 | 02:00 PM
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Re: smog equipment delete, will this cause engine light

I removed my smog pump this weekend as it froze up on me. I left the metal tubing that goes into the manifolds but capped them (x3) with 1/2 iron pipe caps.

My check engine light came on.

Any suggestions?

Do you have to do anything with the two plugs that were unplugged?
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Old Sep 6, 2022 | 03:40 PM
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Re: smog equipment delete, will this cause engine light

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I removed my smog pump this weekend as it froze up on me. I left the metal tubing that goes into the manifolds but capped them (x3) with 1/2 iron pipe caps.

My check engine light came on.

Any suggestions?

Do you have to do anything with the two plugs that were unplugged?
Find out what the code is and start there. The Airpump won't be the direct cause of the light.
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Old Sep 6, 2022 | 06:55 PM
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Re: smog equipment delete, will this cause engine light

Good advice. The speed-density system from '91 should not be looking for the electrical load (35-50Ω) from the port or divert solenoids as a later ECM/PCM would. Don't be surprised if the O² sensor is reporting lean, potentially from a leak in the caps you installed on the air injection fittings. The threads are not NPT, so a standard pipe cap may not seal very well.
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Old Sep 6, 2022 | 08:24 PM
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Re: smog equipment delete, will this cause engine light

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The threads are not NPT, so a standard pipe cap may not seal very well.
I try to tell people that and they just ignore me. The threads are 1/2"-20. People refer to the fittings as 5/16" inverted flare. Well the flare may be 5/16", but the threads are 1/2"-20 which is a bolt thread, NOT a pipe thread...
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Re: smog equipment delete, will this cause engine light

Originally Posted by T.L.
I try to tell people that and they just ignore me. The threads are 1/2"-20. People refer to the fittings as 5/16" inverted flare. Well the flare may be 5/16", but the threads are 1/2"-20 which is a bolt thread, NOT a pipe thread...


Here is what you need to plug holes in manifolds.......

or this.....

https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo...854912&jsn=255
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Old Sep 7, 2022 | 09:27 AM
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Re: smog equipment delete, will this cause engine light

Originally Posted by Kevin91Z
The ECM only monitors the EGR to make sure its working. That said, removing your emissions equipment from a street car is a federal offense, regardless of your state's emissions rules. If caught, you can be punished by a fine, jail time, or both.

AND, in Cali, they will release a kidnapper/rapist/murderer, to make room for YOU!
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Re: smog equipment delete, will this cause engine light

Or these (and that's not rust. It's copper-colored anti-seize)...
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Re: smog equipment delete, will this cause engine light

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Or these (and that's not rust. It's copper-colored anti-seize)...
Looks good, I like those, do you have a mfgr name and # or P/N ??
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Looks good, I like those, do you have a mfgr name and # or P/N ??
'Sorry, no part number. I got them from Fastenal. They're 1/2"-20 plugs and use an Allen.key...
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