learning to drive a manual.
learning to drive a manual.
like in my other post i said i am converting my trans am over to a t-5. is it hard to learn to drive a manual car? i catch on to stuff pretty quick so i'm not too worried but i don't wanna kill my tranny or anything. and plus i always got my 87 camaro for when i don't feel like shifting. l any tips would be greatly appreciated. thanks
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I didn't learn in a Firebird but for me, yes it was kinda difficult at first (yes I burned a clutch). And it is more uncomfortable driving a manual in a bird than it is on say a small compact car because of the bird's size and how low it sits. I think the toughest part for someone just learning will be releasing the clutch without jerking or stalling the car.
If you can learn in another, smaller car, that would be better.
If you can learn in another, smaller car, that would be better.
It depends on the person. Back in the day when I learned stick (on a 68' XKE) I did'nt stall and withing a few days I was heal and toe driving (w/ no instructions), but that's me. One of my friends' first cars was a 5.0 and he still goes WAY back when starting up a hill and he's had that 5.0 for like a year now. It seems some people are born good at it, and some arnt. Try if your really worried learn to drive it in a big parking lot.
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hehe, i learned on a 78 z28 4spd. not the best car to learn on. cable clutch, loooong throws with the shifter, it was fun as hell though.......
If you want to learn, learn on an old pickup with the low range first gear. You can basically just let go of the clutch. That's what I did. Then my friend put on some bigger tires, I now had to press on the gas a bit. Then I bought my bird. I have 3.08's in the back. I used to press on the gas and slowly let go, but it was wearing on the clutch. Now I tap the gas and let go as I release the pedal. As soon as I'm starting to roll I let go of the clutch, and press on the gas. It doesn't jerk, and I'm not riding the clutch.
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From: ny-lindy
Car: 1989 Iroc z hardtop
Engine: peanut LB9
Transmission: slopomatic TH700R4
learn on the hardest thing that you can find. so when u get in ur car it won't be as hard. i learned in a 89 ford 7000 series at work, u wanna talk about clutch release, gotta be a damn good driver to get her to move in high range. but anyway, learn how a clutch works and you'll understand who to use it better.
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Car: 1984 Z28
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buy a 4 speed chevette for 200 bucks.. thats what i did. about a year later when i was able to drive, i took it to a field, set it on fire and pushed it off a cliff.. man that was funny.
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Originally posted by 84Z28_5.7ltr_V8
buy a 4 speed chevette for 200 bucks.. thats what i did. about a year later when i was able to drive, i took it to a field, set it on fire and pushed it off a cliff.. man that was funny.
buy a 4 speed chevette for 200 bucks.. thats what i did. about a year later when i was able to drive, i took it to a field, set it on fire and pushed it off a cliff.. man that was funny.
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From: Kingston, NH
Car: 2004 Wrangler Rubicon
Engine: 4.0
Transmission: NV3550
Axle/Gears: Dana 44s with 4.10 and air lockers
that's how i don't get rusty while my trans am is down for the winter. it's the only good thing about changing tires at NTB
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From: Burnaby, BC, Canada
Car: 1989 Camaro Iroc-Z
Engine: 305 TPI (LB9)
Transmission: Auto 4
I was fortunate I learned to drive on a standard....
had my learners, parents had a standard car.... I was living at school 3 hours from home, my dad would drive home, I'd drive back... and he'd read or sleep while I drove back...
Took awhile to get good at hills.... now I've driven pretty much everything, including trucks where you have to double clutch, and with a hi/low diff
had my learners, parents had a standard car.... I was living at school 3 hours from home, my dad would drive home, I'd drive back... and he'd read or sleep while I drove back...
Took awhile to get good at hills.... now I've driven pretty much everything, including trucks where you have to double clutch, and with a hi/low diff
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From: Vancouver B.C. Canada
Car: 1984 Z28
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i hate when im stopped at a red light and its a steep incline.. i always squak the tires.. chevvette or camaro.. if im in the camaro i just pretend that i did it on purpose and ill actually make it a good patch.
Tranny swap considerations
One thing you may want to consider when going with the 5-speed... I bought an '89 RS convertible 305TBI 5 spd about two years ago. I love driving the car but I was worried about leaving the top down. I had a crimestopper FM 2-way pager alarm system installed. After reading the owners manual I found out that I could easily hook up a remote start with the system... I think you know where I'm going with this. I was always careful about leaving the car out of gear. One night while grabbing my guitars out of the front seat I accidentally knocked the car into gear. The next morning I started my car before leaving for work. I heard a really strange noise and my heart fell to the floor. I turned to look at my front door and...SMASH!! Here comes my car through the front door of my condo. (Good thing I parked in front of my own door the night before) My point is, if you're considering an alarm system and want to do a remote start, you may want to weigh that with the 5 speed idea. Otherwise, I say the 5-speed is so much more fun to drive. I'm glad I held out until I found a convertible with the stick. Good luck.
considering
I'm "considering" swapping my 5-speed for an automatic because I like the remote start and can't afford to remodel my condo and restore my ragtop AGAIN. (about $3,000 all together)
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From: boonton, NJ
Car: 84 camaro Z28
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Axle/Gears: moser 9" with 411 posi
i learned stick on a brand new ford F250 diesel. had a though time with that truck. it just didn't want to move. then i found out that i was trying to start off in third gear. when i got my car i was still a little rusty at driving stick. when i first drove it, it was so much easier that the truck. on my car, you can let the clutch out slowly without stepping on the gas and it will start to go. good luck
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From: Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Car: 1982 Trans Am
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Learning to drive stick takes less then five minutes with someone helping you. First, find someone who drives stick. Have them take you around for 10 minutes or so, to get an understanding. Then, you get in the drivers seat and remember everything he taught you.
If you don't have anyone to teach you, my suggestion would be to first look at an encyclopedia, and get an understanding from that. Look under "Manual Transmission" or something like that. When first taking off, get the car to about 1500 rpms with the clutch in of course, and the car in first gear(Almost all trannys have first gear farthest to the left and up including a T-5)Then slowly let the clutch in, not letting the rpms get below 1000. That would be the easiest way I know to first try.
If you don't have an encyclopedia, then I can scan and send you the pages.
I was first taught on the 02 Trans Am. Then I drove my dads 71 4 speed with a Ram clutch. Man that thing holds.
If you don't have anyone to teach you, my suggestion would be to first look at an encyclopedia, and get an understanding from that. Look under "Manual Transmission" or something like that. When first taking off, get the car to about 1500 rpms with the clutch in of course, and the car in first gear(Almost all trannys have first gear farthest to the left and up including a T-5)Then slowly let the clutch in, not letting the rpms get below 1000. That would be the easiest way I know to first try.
If you don't have an encyclopedia, then I can scan and send you the pages.
I was first taught on the 02 Trans Am. Then I drove my dads 71 4 speed with a Ram clutch. Man that thing holds.
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Car: 2006 Tacoma X-Runner
Engine: 4.0L DOHC V6
Transmission: 6-Speed Manual
Axle/Gears: 3:15 LSD
I taught myself how to drive a stick in a day using what is right now my temporary vehicle. To me driving a manual wasn't hard at all to learn. The only bumps I got was taking off from a stop. I drove 3 hours that day and by the end I was able to drive a manual without overheating the clutch. But of course this is just my case, others may vary
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From: Shreveport, LA, USA
Car: Tahoe
Engine: 350
Transmission: T56
Get in a big parking lot and go nuts
No slow crap Just remember how the drive line works and you will be fine
If you put the trans in yourself have a mechanically inclined stick shift driver help you out and tell you how exactly the process goes about
No slow crap Just remember how the drive line works and you will be fine
If you put the trans in yourself have a mechanically inclined stick shift driver help you out and tell you how exactly the process goes about
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Car: 1991 Camaro RS
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Transmission: T56
Axle/Gears: 4.10 on a torsen diff
I learned on the big rigs, let the clutch out in low gear and shift without it. (Don't try this at home, you'll end up frying your synchronizers)
Stick isn't hard, you just have to move the correct appendage at the proper time. If you can pat your head and rub your tummy at the same time, you should catch oon without a problem.
Stick isn't hard, you just have to move the correct appendage at the proper time. If you can pat your head and rub your tummy at the same time, you should catch oon without a problem.
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Car: 1989 Camaro Iroc-Z
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Transmission: Auto 4
Learnign how to drive stick is easy
getting good at it takes a looooot of practice....
and... I wouldn't put a remote start on a standard...
getting good at it takes a looooot of practice....
and... I wouldn't put a remote start on a standard...
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Car: 1990 IROC
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Originally posted by waltersb
Learnign how to drive stick is easy
getting good at it takes a looooot of practice....
and... I wouldn't put a remote start on a standard...
Learnign how to drive stick is easy
getting good at it takes a looooot of practice....
and... I wouldn't put a remote start on a standard...
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Car: 04 Vette
Engine: LS1
Transmission: 4L60E
Axle/Gears: 2.73
I learned to drive a stick on gravel in a 1963 sunbeam alpine with no sycros on first gear and trust me it is not that hard just take some time learning how to take off and stop once you get that down learning to shift is not a problem.
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Car: 1989 Iroc z hardtop
Engine: peanut LB9
Transmission: slopomatic TH700R4
Originally posted by waltersb
Learnign how to drive stick is easy
getting good at it takes a looooot of practice....
and... I wouldn't put a remote start on a standard...
Learnign how to drive stick is easy
getting good at it takes a looooot of practice....
and... I wouldn't put a remote start on a standard...
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From: Alton, Illinois, USA
Car: 1988 Trans Am
Engine: 305 tbi=LO3
Transmission: Automatic
i learned to drive a manual mostly on an 81 vw rabbit
then my dad let me drive a 2k1 trans am ram air with a hurst (he works at a pontiac dealer).....wow is all i can say. it takes a bit to learn to drive one, its just a matter of learning when the rpms are high enough to get into 1st from a stop, all the other gears are relatively easy. and i wouldnt reccomend starting from a stop on a hill until you have gotten better.
then my dad let me drive a 2k1 trans am ram air with a hurst (he works at a pontiac dealer).....wow is all i can say. it takes a bit to learn to drive one, its just a matter of learning when the rpms are high enough to get into 1st from a stop, all the other gears are relatively easy. and i wouldnt reccomend starting from a stop on a hill until you have gotten better. i learned by myself and i recently went and test drove a 88 camaro rs with a 5 speed and a 305 the car drove really sweet and the clutch was easy fro me , even though it was my 3rd time driving stick but one thing i noticed was that my foot kept hitting the bottom of the dash, i thought it was very weird, maybe the guy messed with his pedals or somethin
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From: St Catharines, ON
Car: '85 Z28
Engine: 350
Transmission: T5
Axle/Gears: 3.23
My advice would be to try to think of what is actually happening mechanically when you drive the stick. I really don't think there is any need to buy a junker to learn on. I learned on my car when I bought it. Just go out to a country road with a friend who knows how to drive standard, get in the drivers seat, and give her!
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Car: 1986 Z28
Engine: LG4 305ci
Transmission: T5
When i got my camaro with a t5 i didnt take me but a day or two, and im 16 years old. I have a 6 speed yamaha quad, so i already had the idea, it was just changing from using the clutch with my hand to using it with my foot, but yea, it helps if you actually know what is going on mechanically when driving a manual transmission.
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From: Connecticut
Car: 91' Firebird
Engine: 3.1L V6
Transmission: WC T5
i learned on my 1990 celica, just remember, give gas/let off clutch, its a little harder on hills, but you'll get it eventually. Same thing with shifting gears, put the clutch in, switch gears, and let off the clutch while giving gas. GOODLUCK!!:lala:
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From: Tuscaloosa, AL
Car: 91Z, 91RS, '84 Jimmy
Engine: L98, 355, L98
Transmission: 700R, T56, 700R4
Originally posted by fbodyandy
get a job at a car wash. practice on other peoples cars.
get a job at a car wash. practice on other peoples cars.
That's what I did. The first stick I ever drove was a brand new BMW.....it's a good thing the customer was inside at the time.
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From: Chicago, IL
Car: 1992 Camaro RS
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: T5- manual five speed
the worst issue i had was learning to take off in first from a stop. first also sucks because its just used for very slow driving or just to get the car moving. i found this out by jerking my brains around in my head a few times. just remeber you can let the clutch out as slow as you want as your giving it gas. this will give you the non-jerky start. just practice on your car, thats what i did with my 92 camaro. its alot cheaper to replace a clutch than buy a beater to learn on.
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From: Saskatoon, SK, Canada
Car: '83 Z28, '07 Charger SRT8
Engine: 454ci, 6.1 Hemi
Transmission: TH350, A5
Axle/Gears: 2.73 posi, 3.06 posi
Wasn't too bad for me... I learned in an '86 Honda Prelude. I stalled the first time, a little 'jumpy' a few more after, and went from there.
Then my cousin actually let me take his '52 Ford F1 for a little supervised spin around the block. Had a 3-on-the-tree, a 3.91 rear end and a 239 Flathead V8.
Talk about pressure, lol
All went well, but I gotta say... driving my 5 speed Z28 (mechanical linkage '83) is like no other car I've driven yet... nothing like the '52 and nowere near the Honda.
I drove that Honda again about 2 weeks ago, and since I'm used to my relatively stiff pedal in the Z28, I pushed the pedal on the Honda and it felt like it wasn't even connected, lol... felt exactly like when my cross-shaft lever split in my Z28, lol
Then my cousin actually let me take his '52 Ford F1 for a little supervised spin around the block. Had a 3-on-the-tree, a 3.91 rear end and a 239 Flathead V8.
Talk about pressure, lol

All went well, but I gotta say... driving my 5 speed Z28 (mechanical linkage '83) is like no other car I've driven yet... nothing like the '52 and nowere near the Honda.
I drove that Honda again about 2 weeks ago, and since I'm used to my relatively stiff pedal in the Z28, I pushed the pedal on the Honda and it felt like it wasn't even connected, lol... felt exactly like when my cross-shaft lever split in my Z28, lol
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