Id like to do some research on them if someone can just name them out. Manuals only... I think I have seen the T56, and G92?.... what else.

 

Any transmission that bolts to any small block chevy will bolt to an L98.

 

2 Questions. I thought the l98 was the 350, not the 305, and would you please name them out so I can google them?

 

L98=350ci

LB9=305ci

t56=six speed from 4th gen f-body

t5=five speed from 3rd gen f-body

 

From what I am reading the t5 tranny doesnt work well with the l98 vette engine, so the t56 I guess would be the best option right? I know I sound like a newb asking these questions, I am just starting to piece together what I am going to need to get one of these cars together. I absolutely love the third gen camaros and I cant wait to own one(again). I bought one 4 years ago and it died on me quick and I had to get rid of it. With the knowledge that I have gained over the past 4 years I plan on picking up a motor and rebuilding it. Obviously which tranny I go with will depend which motor.

 

The T5 will work with a 350 as long as you granny drive it. Too much torque into the tranny and it will break. GM never offered the T5 behind a 350.

T56 is the most common upgrade but there are other non factory transmissions available that will also work.

G92 is an RPO code for performance gear option. Some cars come with different ratios depending on engine, transmission and options. If 2.77 was the standard ratio, the G92 option gave the car the 3.27 ratio.

 

Yeah im not going to be granny driving...so the t5 is not for me. I figure what the hell is the point in getting the 5.0L when you can get the 5.7? I mean camaros are already heavy as hell, you need that power!

It did look like the t56 was the most common swap. Ill look into the g92. What tranny did the 5.7L come with out of the factory?

 

700R4.

JamesC

 

why would their best engine package come with an auto tranny? that sounds retarded.

 

GM apparently didn't think their manual would hold up behind the power.

JamesC

 

so instead people now use the newer 4th gen t56 tranny with the 350's right?

 

Some do. You might check out Tremec. Note that I use a non-WC behind a 350ci/330hp (but as has been mentioned, I drive like a granny).

JamesC

 

I am still very young, I don't think I could drive like a granny if I bought one of these cars...haha. Do you know some reputable places to pick up a 305 or 350? either used or remanufactured. I'm searching google but I figured I would ask.

 

I'm in the same boat right now.
G-force makes a T-5 rebuild, but I haven't really heard anything good about them.
Tremec, (Classic Motorsports Group) makes several that will work.
JAM Performance has the kits for the 3rd gens, along with Fortes parts connection, (I think was the other) Tremec dosen't actually list a tranny for 3rd gens. From what I have found you can go with a 500 or 600, both 5 speed, 500 and 600 foot pounds of torque.

Richmond Gear also makes several from what I see that will fit.
The also have one that is rated for 600 foot pounds of torque. And several rated at less.

For a crossmember, I think I am going to go with Spohn. They make I think for both, would have to look again, crossmembers that move the torque arm to the corssmember.
99% positive I am going to go with one of their torque arms and crossmember kits. They also offer a drive shaft safety loop as part of the crossmember. That is all advertised to be NHRA legal if you want to race it.

If I find any more, and I remeber I will let you know. Or you can PM me and ask.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/CHEVR...#ht_500wt_1208

what does everyone think of that? Seems solid to me. I have seen them cheaper but I would imagine that you would pay more for something that is re manufactured and not all used up.

 

First dont knock the 700r4 its a very good transmission. Nothin wrong with an automatic, usually prefered for strait line performance, most people who convince themselves they need a standard cant drive them for crap anyways.

Second, like said before G92 is an RPO NOT A TRANSMISSION, it is a performance rear end gearing option, if u can find a thirdgen with a g92 optioned rear good but i wouldnt worry too much bout it gear swaps arnt that expensive.....

Third and finally, T56 is great, also look at the TKO 500 and TKO 600, these are both aftermarket trans that are 5speeds and rated for some power although id probably recomend a T56 ahead of them cause they are stout and can be made to handle serious power and that double overdrive is nice. If you want a T56 youll need one from a 93-97 Camaro or Trans Am, not the 98-02 LS1 style, u need the LT1 STYLE........

 

Awesome information there. Thank you. I dont want to sound like I am knocking the 700r4, however I think if I am going to be serious about buying a sports car like this I would like to have a manual. So now I know that I can go with an LT1(engine from the 93-97) or go with a LS1, or I can go with a L98 and use the t56 with all of them?

I plan on buying a roller from 88-92ish and buying an engine and tranny to drop in. I absolutely love the third gen body style. However when I drop everything in I want to make sure everything is in great working order so I wont have to worry about an trouble. This car is not going to have 400+HP, probably going to stay stock, maybe a few minor mods. I plan on having the car for many years as well.

Looks like I could get this done for around 5k.

 

youll be lucky to get it all done for 5k, stuff ads up fast, i have over 6k in my IROC and have it not even driving right now, and im sorry if im repetative but you last post was a little unclear so just for my piece of mind let me lay it out like this. An LT1 style T56 transmission from a 93-97 fbody will bolt to and work with any small block chevy including the L98, and obviosly it will work with the LT1. The 98-02 T56 transmission in the Fbodys will only bolt to LS1s and other Gen III motors......

 

Okay sounds great.

Well Im thinking I could find a good shell for around a grand, put $1500 into the rebuilt tranny, and the rest into the motor.

 

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Parts-Accessories_Car-Truck-Parts-Accessories__97-04-LS1-LS6-engine-T-56-transmission-Corvette-GTO_W0QQitemZ120344540351QQddnZPartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQadiZ2865QQddiZ2811QQadnZCarQ20Q26Q20TruckQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQcmdZViewItemQQptZMotors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories?hash=item120344540351&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245&_trkparms=65:2|39:1|240:1318#ht_500wt_846

somethin like this is what I think I would need.....

 

thats for an LS1, it wont work with a small block chevy like the L98,

 

I know, that would be if I was looking to get the ls1 as well as a total package.

The way I see it I have 3 options....

Complete LS1 swap from 98-02 w/ t56 from same era.(most expensive)

and the next 2 should cost about the same...

LT1 swap with a t56 from 93-97

L98 swap wth the t56 from the 93-97 era.

Correct me if im wrong.

 

ok yeah thats all right........LS1 Swap will get pricey real fast, if u just want between 300-400hp and dependability go find an LT1 fbody wrecked and swap all that over with nice headers and a cam swap shell put out some power and get good milage....

 

Yeah I dont think I will be doing an LS1 swap. I think if I am going to go with a 350 the LT1 would be the best option. It seems like a pretty common/easy swap. I would assume the easiest swap would be putting one of the original third gen motors in the third gen cars, but those engines just dont seem to have the HP and torque like the LT1. 300-400HP will be plenty for me.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GM_LT_engine

I am going to feel like a dumbass for asking this but its a forum and I want to get this done right. Do I have to find an LT1 that came in a 93-97 camaro to put in the third gen camaro body? or can I find one from a transam, corvette and all of the other cars that had the lt1?

 

i dont see the LT1 swap as being too much more complicated then an L98 especially if the car in question is not origanally an L98 or LB9 car.......if u can get a donor LT1 fbody then it really makes things alot easier

 

I want to get the chassis to be from a 88-92..so if I want to get an LT1 motor in there with a t56 I would have to get the necessary brackets and **** to make it fit. Im reading about the LT1 swap in the engine swap section now.

 

any FBODY would work a camaro and trans am are the same car minus body panels especially from 82 up.... the Corvette LT1 is rated for a few more hp then the Fbody, and has 4bolt mains stock....id just stay away from any LT1 that doesnt come out of the Fbody or YBody (vette).

 

http://www.geocities.com/texaslt1/lt1swap/swap.html

this site seems to have some good information.

Would the install of an LT1 from a Fbody and Ybody be the same into a third gen? If not how ?ifferent is the install and which one would be easier.

 

Q. Should I get a Corvette or F-Body LT1?
A. The main difference between the Vette and F-body LT1 is the 4-bolt mains in the Vette as opposed to the 2-bolt mains in the F-body. The only other major difference is the accessory mounting, discussed in the guide.

NM I think I just answered my own question. Probably easier taking an LT1 from an Fbody

 

Corvette was only rated higher because of the better exhaust system. The engine itself is the same as what the Z28 and Trans Am used. 4-bolt mains isn't a big deal, the 2-bolt block isn't really any less strong.

The problem with the Corvette LT1 is that the accessories (power steering pump, alternator, AC compressor, etc) and their bracketry is all different, and the oil pan is different, and likely will not work in your car. The Z28/Trans Am accessories, brackets, and oil pan will work much better. Find an LT1 out of a Z28 or Trans Am and you'll be better off.

 

Yeah I wont be going with an LT1 Non F body engine if I end up doing this swap. Ill end up finding a LT1 from a 93-97 camaro or trans am.

It would be awesome to find a third gen shell that already has the necessary things in it to just drop another LT1 engine right in.

 

well any v8 camaro thirdgen pretty much is setup to accept the lt1, it bolts in just like a traditional v8, ull just have to run the wiring setup....

 

Yeah but if one already had the fuel lines and the PCM installed and stuff it would be even easier.

 

I just noticed that the original title of this thread has been solved and the discussion has gone to: information about an LT1 swap haha.

Good info guys.

 

you could get a tranny out of a big truck. like a 4 speed out of a heavy duty truck. very heavy, we're talking cast iron housing, very durable. one of my friends used them for dirt racing. it would also be much cheaper than a T56. think about the classic 4 speed muscle car feel. its one option. you've got a lot of options though.

 

Cheaper is good, however it has to be reliable and easier to install(I probbaly wont end up installing myself, so the easier it is for someone else to do, the cheaper it would be). Like what other truck trannys are you talking about? Give me some Models #'s so I can look into em. Thanks!

 

please dont, a granny 4 speeds have gearing for pulling thats all, somethin like 1st = 7.05, 2nd= 3.58, 3rd= 1.71, 4th= 1.00, Rev=7.05...you would be shifting out of first instantaneously, into second with a huge rpm drop, and then ud be shifting into 3rd pretty quick too, with another huge rpm drop finally into 4th......the only purpose for that trans is pulling.

 

Makes sense... so you think the T56 is a great option huh?...From what I have read it seems like the best option.

 

yes the T56 is awesome trans, i drive my buddies 97 6 speed Z28 all the time i love it, its fun and a great strong transmission, stock it can withstand about 45ftlbs of tq, but it can be built to withstand almost 1000ft lbs.........that double over drive is great on gas milage too....

 

Yeah sounds great to me, and this forum seems to love the t56.

Just to clarify since you are doing an awesome job at my questions and it only takes you 2 seconds to answer instead of taking me 10 mins to find out...I have another question.

for the LT1 swap, you said F body motors would be the best way for the third gen install. Obviously that would be a 93-97 camaro, 93-97 trans am, but does this include the firebird as well? Are their any other cars besides those 3?

 

a trans am is a "Firebird Trans Am" like a Camaro Z28... firebirds are usually v6, like a regular camaro, but they did make "Formula Firebirds" that are V8 those would work, any version of a camaro of firebird with and LT1 is what you want.......and yeah im glas i can help quickly im a full time student that doesnt work so i have a lot of time on my hands right now dureing the xmas break, im just sitting here watchin some tv and trying to help who i can.....

 

awesome man....from your experience on the situation I am looking to complete, what are usually the main "problems" or more difficult parts of the Lt1 swap with the t56 going into the right third gen body? what would be a fair price for someone to install it?
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Oh yeah and I also was reading somewhere that getting a 94-95 camaro LT1 engine was the best LT1 to get because the 93 had some issue with opti spark or something, and the 96-97's computer was more advanced? Could you clear this up for me?

 

im not sure what a good price would be, and all my LT1 experience is with my buddies 97 wich is OBDII, i would go for a 94-95 probably, youll have to search for more infor in that area cause my LT1 knowledge is a lil more general sorry you posted a cpl questions that are getting away from my general knowledge, i think the biggest hassle with the LT1 though is somethin with AC clearance, but i could just be confusing that with the AC clearance problems with LS1 swaps......

 

No your right, the AC clearance is a problem with the Lt1 swap, Wont be an issue with me though because I dont really care if I have AC, and if I do want AC their are ways to keep it. Just a bit complicated thats all.

Seriously if the AC problem is the most difficult part of the install then that really just says how easy the swap is.

yeah the OBDII in the 96-97 LT1 motors is what I think I was reading about, I would def want to go with a 94-95 then.

 

Okay so another question....actually 2.

Lets say I end up getting an LT1 motor that comes with the engine harness and PCM. The Harness has to be configured to fit in the third gen eventhough it came from the original LT1 motor right? Where is a good reputable place to get this done and what kind of price are we talking here?

 

Also it seems as if the LT1's from the camaro's from 94-95 only need little bending of the power steering lines to fit. Is this true?

 

As far as the original question goes. You can bolt dang near any trans behind the l98. T4, T5, T56, Saganaw, M21, M22 on and on.

T5 works with all factory parts and will hold up a while.

If you purchase Lakewood bell with the hydraulic cylinder mount you can use the stock clutch/flywheel with the T5 M21/22 or better yet go with the TKO 600. It's rated at 600 lb/ft and can withstand big power. That's what I'm doing. Bell/trans and some misc parts under $3k. Just add pedals, flywheel and clutch if you don't already have them.

 

I actually am not going to get the l98, I would rather get the LT1..