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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 08:28 PM
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anymore tune up stuff left to do?

Well its been awile since i posted on the v6 forum ive been spending my money on appearance i just got a formula hood on my bird today. I have done almost all bolt ons and im waiting for emission legal 3.1 headers to come out and for doward or allen to get there plenum/tb into production so havent spent money on performance like usual and want to finish a tune up i never got all the stuff for.

so far ive done

air filter cai (k&n filter)
oxygen sensor (bosch)
spark plugs (accel)
coil (accel)
cap&rotor (accel)
wires (accel)
oil change (castrol gtx high mileage/ fram tough guard filter)
pcv valve (fram)

im getting a fuel filter (fram) tommarow any other tune up parts i should get?
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 08:48 PM
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Clean the IAC
Check all vac hoses.
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 09:01 PM
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Trans fluid/filter
Radiator flush
Differential oil
Brake fluid if it's original
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 09:17 PM
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Run some Techron through a tank of gas or...Seafoam it...
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Old Dec 11, 2005 | 09:24 PM
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Vote #2 for Seafoam.

How many miles?

If over 100k, and they've not been done lately, I'd do water pump and timing chain
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 12:10 AM
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so the 2.8 headers arnt emmissions legal for use on a 3.1?
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 09:48 AM
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Nope, but you should be able to pass sniff test - it's the visual test that they will fail you on (I only know of CA that does visual - talk about F'ING STUPID - as long as you pass the sniff test, that's all that counts!!)
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 09:57 AM
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New Hampshire does visual test on all emissions stuff...dunno if Headers would be something that would matter.
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 06:13 PM
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timing chain and water pump

Im gonna hold off on the timing chain because im getting a comp high energy cam kit that comes with one. Is there any high performance water pumps for our car or better than stock ones i should look for. Also i got some stp fuel treatment is that basically the same thing as techron and seafoam? When i run the fuel treatment should i run it on a full tank of 93 octane or 87?
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 09:00 PM
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seafoam you put in through a vacuum line and it cleans the whole motor. STP stuff cleans injectors and that's it. I do both. If they had a 55gal drum of seafoam I'd be first in line to buy it.
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Old Dec 12, 2005 | 09:25 PM
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Seafoam it, and get TECHRON, not STP..Run the techron through a tank of 89 or so...
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Old Dec 13, 2005 | 12:42 PM
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You should also-

1. check/adjust the timing (spec is 10 degrees advanced)

2. get rid of the Fram filter and put either Purolator or AC (Fram is cheaply made, do a google search- I used to use Fram until I saw what those filters were made of)

3. check/adjust the TV cable for the trans (see thirdgen.org's tech area, off of the main thirdgen.org page, look for the article "kickdown cable" - but the TV cable is NOT a kickdown cable, the article is mis-named)

4. it's colder now, check your tire pressure if you haven't done that yet this winter

5. Lube job with synthetic grease

6. While you're cleaning the IAC, also clean out the throttle body.

No high-performance water pumps, you could build up a remote-mount Meziere pump (streetable electric pumps) if you have an extra $200 lying around. Our water pump is an odd shape, so nobody makes a bolt-in hi-flow one.

I prefer the STP Gas Treatment (I even mention it in my tuneup post), that $1.00 bottle seems to do the most for my car compared to the higher $$ stuff. Put it in with whatever gasoline you normally use- but I'd stick to name brand gas.. like Sunoco or Exxon/Mobile or BP/Amoco or etc... avoid the super-cheap gas places.
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 08:04 PM
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id have to say a brake fluid flush and power steering flush as well. ive worked at a few places that do those, ive done them on mine, the (old) power steering pump had a lil noise to it, flushed it out and BAM, noise was gone. brake fluid flush was another good move. it slowly gets moisture in it over the years and moisture is not good for brake fluid. and besides, theyre all oils, theyre gonna break down, look at the brake and power steering fluid in your car, and look at what comes out of a new bottle of each, right there is enough reason to change them.
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 08:20 PM
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tomP what fram filter are you talking about the fuel or oil?
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Old Dec 14, 2005 | 09:27 PM
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Pretty sure he meant fuel.
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Old Dec 15, 2005 | 09:03 AM
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Nope, tom meant oil.

Here's a copy of the article: http://minimopar.knizefamily.net/oilfilterstudy.html He had to pull down the Fram page because they threatened to sue him, but basically, the Fram isn't as well made as AC or Purolator.

I only use AC or Purolator filters for oil, trans fluid, & gas.
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