I have wanted a muscle car all my life and a month ago i finally got a 1991 camaro rs. I got this car pretty cheap for its condition, it only had 57,000 miles on it and there was absolutely no rust or paint flaws. Now after one month i am begginning to feel that the 3.1L is not creating the kind of powerful drive i want it too. i was just wondering if you all could comment on the pros and cons of a turbo kit compared to a V8 conversion. things like which would be easier to install and which would be easier to maintain would be appriciated.

I would also like to know if there is any online store that has engine parts/ drop in turn key engines for sale that would fit into a 91 camaro. or an online store that has headers for the v6

 

I say go for the turbo if your mechanically inclined, otherwise go with daves12secv6's turbo kit. Everyone told me I was crazy for turboing the 6er, but the way I see it is: if your up for the challenge and want to be different...
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Click on my garage button below my name/avitar and see what I got for a tad less than $2500...
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If you add a turbo, you will get better gas milage. But if you get a V8, you can supercharge it in the future and have alot more power.

 

Well they both have the potential to make a lot of power, but the v8 is going to be cheaper. I say turbo the v6 if you have the money and are mechanically inclined.

 

CHEAPER?!?!?
Got my turbo for $170 delivered and intercooler for just over $100.
Next is the ducting kit ($90 delivered)
BOV (less than $100 delivered)
Wastegate-external (less than $100 delivered)
That will get me to 7-9psi
That's aprox 225hp for $500 (and lots of time researching/designing/installation)
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But then again I have a solid 6er to do mods to...

 

im partial to the turbo v6.but whats better to do is gonna depend on ur goals,
to swap to a v8 figure in cost of buying a v8 motor + rebuild to do it right,also figure in cost of transmission.then the other odds and ends computer/harness if u want to keep it fuel injected,say u get the l98 thats what 245 hp.
now take ur cuurent v6.if u can build the kit urself look about 8-900 for parts and ur time.on the stock engine u can make 260+ hp @ 7psi.if u cant build ur own kit i can sell u a full bolton kit,but they run 2,800$'s and is capable of over 18psi with the base turbo.25+ with the upgraded turbo
in stock for the bottom end of the v6 is good for 400 hp,except the pistions are only good for 12 psi 14 psi tops,forged replacements are relativly cheap if u want to run more boost.
on a worked v6 u can get 400+hp
now take that same l98 and u can get more but its gonna cost more,though 5-7 psi on a stock l98 should get u atleast 350 hp maybe more

 

Hey dave, thanx for chiming in...
you think I'll be getting 260rwhp @ 7psi?
What did I leave out on my list for 7psi?
Would this be a good intercooler...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/FMIC-...mZ230060990977
and location?

Sorry to pirate your thread,monkeycamaro, guess I should start one...eventually

 

ur gonna need atleast 350 tpi injectors,and an 6-1 fmu,as far as the intercooler try to get on with inlets and outlets on oposite sides ,since ur doing ur own kit i cant recomend a intercooler since i dont know how u plan on running the ducting but i xan recomend that u use 2.5 inlet and outlet or atleast use a 2.5 in and a 2.5-3.0 inch adater on the outlet

 

The temptation is mounting.

I've got the tranny built for it.
Exhaust system built for it.
A new 3.4 (with stock pistons though, so new super-duper high boost for me)
Plenty of money saved (just need a better income to keep it steady or growing)

All I need is another car or the truck I want so I'll have something to drive while I work on it. (the ol 66nova is almost dead)

Probably the only way I'd ever bother swapping a V8 into a V6 fbody is if I had a complete running (but wrecked) V8 car side by side with the V6 car in a shop, and plenty of time to do it.

 

Yes it's a 3" in/out already and it's a 3"core.
The reason I'm thinking same side is to route both through the area that is now inhabited by the charcoal can.
But if the two side in/out is better, that's what I want.
Even if it's harder to do the plumbing.
You think that where I'd like to put it is going to affect cooling too much?

 

i found a kick as 350 engine that puts out about 460 horse power. It costs a hell of alot and sucks gas like crazy but i think that it would be sweet in the camaro and later if i wanted i could put turbos on the v8 and get even more horsepower thanx for all the input im still considering but im leaning toward the v8 because of the rumble and the sound that the eight cylinders have.

 

How much $ do you wanna spend? We can easily tell you if you are thinkin crazy or resonable.

I have a 500 HP 385 that is carbed. I have a good amount of N20 on here but in a few years I plan on going to F.I. and slapping on a supercharger, then I can really play with the big boys. Gonna shoot for 800HP. Def not too streetable though.

Like people allways say, it depends what you want and how much you have. after that the sky is the limit!

PS- I vote V8 all the way. I kinda think turbos are gay though. So you might not wanna listen to me.

 

the engine i found is on a company website so its probably retail price and it probably is more expensive than it should be but i think its around 8k if i can remember correctly

i forget the website but i have its saved on my favorites on my other computer

my budget right now is none existent but i dont plan to do anything with the car until i get out of college
my question is just for future reference

 

$8,000? You can get an LS2 for that kind of dough...

 

what kinda sound and rumble does the LS2 make
cause even though it sounds childish and stupid i just love
having a sweet rumble sound and feel. It creates the perfect driving
experience that you cant get from the smooth luxury cars

 

Depends on the combination of parts you put on there...
Stock it sounds like the newer GTO (LS1/LS2 came in them).

 

That all depends on the cam and heads really. If you move your power band up and start making the motor wanna move a lot of air, then down low it will start to rumble a little cuz it wants to rev. Right now my car rumbles more than any other car I have ever seen, haha. It shakes the windows of the house... That said, I am building an entirely new exhaust to make it shut up, and keeping these pipes for the track.

 

Its all just a matter or money and taste. You can get what you want with any engine, just it may take more thought, time, effort, money and or connections to get deals.

Could just buy a junkyard corp V8 and let your CC and a summit catalog do the work for ya. Or think out side the box and what ever you need, you have built or make..

If ya aint got connections, skills, time or money.....
I still wouldn't just buy any V8 as you won't be happy, its still gonna need mods.

If you can't afford to buy a built V8 like you saw.

Id then go for an older big block V8 from any GM make to get that tire shreading fun you want easy and cheap. Gase mileage will still suck like a built one and will keep you in smiles. It will have stroke and was built to haul a car 2-3000lb heaiver. It will move stock, if you can get traction.

Though ya know these cars are just tin cans that are stout but ripe in half real easy. Best budget for a cage or good SFC stuff to hold the car together. As its gonna get lose on ya, and if you swipe something. It will just rip like tin foil in the middle.

 

can u turbo charge an engine that has a supercharger on it because i found a website that has a 3.8L chevy thats in the impala ss (260hp) and i was thinking thats good but it could be better, so i just didnt no if it could have both a supercharger and a turbo charger(s)

 

If you use a 3.8, you'll have to change your trans. Not to mention front wheel drive motors are difficult to make work in our cars.

 

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by the way i have no idea how much horse power my camaro has... can anyone tell me what the usual horse power for an unmodified rs v6 is for 1991

 

Click here:
https://www.thirdgen.org/1991-chevy-camaro

If you use the search feature on this site, lots of questions could be answered without all the typing?!

 

cool thanks
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where did u say i could find a turbo kit for my v6
and is there anywhere i can find headers for it

p.s. i am not a car mechanic so i cant do this stuff by myself. how much does it cost to get it installed and would i have to change the drive shaft to something more durable. if there are any necessary replacements or "upgrades" needed before installing a turbo, what would they be

 

Read the sticky on the v6 forum:
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/v6/375802-how-installing-turbo.html
Contact dave by clicking on his name and send a private message (PM).

 

Yeah, you have a LOT of basic questions. We can answer all of them, but you will learn everyhting you want by using the search and by reading the stickies.

All the info you need is on these forums allready, just take a few minutes and teach yourself how to find it.

Good luck.

Oh and yeah, you can turbo a supercharged car. Now can the car take the extra boost? You gotta make it to take it. haha.

 

thanks for all your helpp yall

 

Convert to v8...real cheap power

 

i went v8....never looked back.

 

I've read in a few places that the 3.8 series 2 uses the same bolt patern as the 60* v6s. (that engine is also a buick engine it can make alot more power than that. clupgp.com has the scoop on it. )

 

Good point, people think it's so easy to swap to V8. I've done it on a list of cars, one was a 1986 Mustang that we converted to small block CHEVY.
You only have 57k on the motor, why trash it? Specially when guys are getting 200,000k or more from the 6ers. You realize that to swap to a V8, your going to have to get a new tranny too? I'ts you car, do what YOU want - if you go V8, I'll take that 3.1 off your hands!

 

twincharging is pointless. stick with one or the other and get better parts. (ie: smaller supercharger pulley, or lager turbo..... or more effective turbo.)

 

i have 1995 v6 3.4 and was wondering who makes a single system turbo for it automatic tranny if that matters if anyone has any info it would be greatly appreciated. thanks

 

Did you read post #24?
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