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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 03:18 PM
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Looking for a power adder

Hey guys,
I have a '96 3.8 litre bone stock and i was looking for a cheap power adder under $900, do you guys know of any?
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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 03:26 PM
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Nitrous would be your best (and only) bet for a "power adder".. unless you didn't mean what "power adder" usually does- nitrous, turbocharge, or supercharge.

If you just want added HP, look into an exhaust or intake. The guys at http://www.camaroz28.com have a 4th gen V6 section. I use to talk to a few of them (from the old http://www.v6fbody.com ), and they know their stuff.


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Old Nov 15, 2001 | 04:26 PM
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The more I find out, the more I kick myself for not going nitrous with my old V6. For the cost of all the other stuff I put into it that helped, but not a whole lot, I could've juiced the motor to kingdom come. It's very safe compared to the horror stories you here, and talk about bang for the buck! $500 and one afternoon, and kiss 2 seconds goodbye in your ET's. Good luck!

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Old Nov 16, 2001 | 06:34 AM
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There are no better options than nitrous. You can get anything fomr 25-500HP shots with todays systems... Now for your car you would be best with a 75, 90, 110 shot.......
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Old Nov 16, 2001 | 10:01 AM
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Old Nov 16, 2001 | 12:36 PM
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Dude, be realisitc. Where the heck would you mount the Nacell tubes on a thirdgen Firebird? On a minivan, no sweat, but thirdgen, no way...



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Old Nov 17, 2001 | 01:39 AM
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Ok, new Idea... weld a JATO pack on the top of your car... they're rechargeable and ought to get you to about 300 MPH in the 1/4... just gotta get better brakes, and maybe a spoiler and better airdam.

Realistically... With a little work, I bet you could find a Turbo or two at a junk yard or on ebay... a 3.8 would respond nicely. Installation could be cheap if you know what you're doing and have access to the apropriate tools.
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Old Nov 17, 2001 | 02:57 PM
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LOL!

The JATO bottle idea reminds of the Darwin awards several years back. This guy strap it to his car and could make a turn and instead went strait into the a wall. They found his brake pads fused to the disk. So there was evidence tat he did try to stop.

On with the topic at hand...

I belive that NOS is the way to go. There is no parasitic power loss
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Old Nov 19, 2001 | 01:45 PM
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Old Nov 19, 2001 | 10:46 PM
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Yeah i figure as much, but thought the idea was prety funny!
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Old Nov 19, 2001 | 11:23 PM
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go to firebirdv6.com. i would say that is one of the best site for v6 4th gens.

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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 12:14 AM
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I'm pretty sure that the darwin award story was real... I've heard it a couple times, but I've done the math and the numbers add up... As I heard it, he ended up pasted on the wall of a cliff about 100 feet off the ground...
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 04:57 AM
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Nitrous..... Nitrous.. When you want it you have it when your just chillin your getting the mileage you want.
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 06:44 AM
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ChillPhatCat is correct, stupid bastard was probably like "Why don't my brakes work?"
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 10:17 PM
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u know that nitrous was first introduced into airplanes? well the old fighters had combustion engines and the pilots were looking for some quick boosts of power... the air force eventualy left the idea when the jet engines were used... holley took up the research and used it on automobiles...
nos is said to have come a long way and it not safe and efficient
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 10:27 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Reno:
Dude, be realisitc. Where the heck would you mount the Nacell tubes on a thirdgen Firebird? On a minivan, no sweat, but thirdgen, no way...



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you mount them down low and out to the side, like Kahn's chip had in Star Trek II
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Old Nov 20, 2001 | 10:44 PM
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OK, no jokes or poking fun at me for this, but I was flipping thru a St*r Trek book, and they had a cargo ship w/1 nacelle. Just make sure it is mounted exactly on the vehicles centerline.
This may be an easier power adder instead of that, get one of those Black & Decker "Mr Fusion" generators, will never need to stop at a gas station again.


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Old Nov 21, 2001 | 03:30 AM
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i didnt think stock engines could take much no2, well maybe a safe 50 shot, but 100 or more i would think is too much. well maybe 100 is ok but will the engine last very long???

i think for the street a smaller dose that you can make shoot at a push of a button would be better.

so its only on when you need it and you can use just enough to pull ahead.

ever heard of a trickle system???

get a big arcade button with turbo on it, with in smacking distance.



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Old Nov 21, 2001 | 06:56 AM
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NOS claims that a good running stock 2.8/3.1 engine can run 75HP. Their Kit is 50/75/90. 90 is the max you want to try.
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Old Nov 21, 2001 | 08:04 AM
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WEll, I can say that I think NOS is the way to go. I've looked into a turbo and supercharger, all are very expensive due to the amount of fabrication it would take for them to work on the 2.8. I was quoted upwards of 5,000 for a turbo set-up. NOS would give you more "bang for the buck." and with NOS you don't have to use it all the time, on a normal day, the car runs like a 2.8 liter V6, but on the track, the car runs great with a 50/75/90 hp shot. Any shot higher would require an extensive engine rebuild.


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