Just take what you learned from $88 and apply it to $59.

As with any tune, take small steps to get it where you want it.

You can stare at $59/$8F/$58/$A1/$85/$0D/$0E/$ETC until you're blue in the face, but until you actually get the engine running on it, you don't know exactly what numbers will need to be in those tables and scalers.

 

Don't worry Mark, I'm not going to continue on with any arguing in your thread. I simply don't agree with what is being said, so I will just leave it at that in terms of Code 59 because it defeats the purpose. Now, as far as the $8F and $58 are concerned, I can piece together a code for you to work with to help get you started if you want to go that route. It will take a little time, as I am essentially doing something with the $8D, albeit those other two codes are much easier to work with. Just shoot me a PM if you need a hand okay...

 

Ok, I just didnt wana start a mess over me not knowing what the H3LL im doing..

Everythings cool though, Im just gonna continue pipeing this turbo up and in a few weeks, hopefully, ill have all the mechanical pieces on the car. Then I can start tuning. I will play with the $59. If I cant figure it out when i can actually datalogg and such, then Ill go from there.

I still cant believe I welded all that piping up and turns out when i bolted the flange to the ex. manifold, it moved it down and i had bad clearence.

But this does look fine for clearence now?? Its almost touching the k memeber.It only took a good hour to cut up more piping and tack, and weld all of it up. I think it looks better, and that bung in there will work for a nb 02 sensor. i did actually make a little dent though that you can see on the 90* bend..opps, too late now.

 

ok man no problem

 

on my car the wastegate is open i didnt even put a pipe on the wastegate outlet i just mounted it to the header and thats it.

on pilsburys car we have a pipe about 8 inches long facing the ground, and like i said u cant even hear it

turbo setup looks good, im just curious on were ur going to put the downpipe, on my car i put the feed pipe on the driver side and the downpipe ran on the passenger side.

also on ur welder u can go get flux core wire for about 25$'s for a 2 pound roll from napa, but if u can get ur gas bottle refilled id deff refill the bottle instead of flux cored wire

 

yea im basically doing this oppisite of what your did on your car. The down pipe is going to go 90* down then (90* straight back to intersect with the original exhasut, its going to be butted aganst the tranny pan on the way back. If you look under a stock car at the mid motor under the car you can run a pipe perfectly straight back to the other exhaust. So thats what im going to try.

Yea argon/co gas is cheep, and i got tons of this wire, so ill just fill it up on monday.

Also for now i think i will just leave the wastegate as is. If its too loud then ill mod. it then.

 

are there any pinout changes that have to be made to run $59? or just the chip?

 

From what I see... no you dont.

 

There are people that will say that the IAC wiring needs to be changed. I have tried it both ways with a 1227749 ECM, and saw no difference in the way the car ran.

The only pin changes that I have noticed that need to be made are when you swap from a 1227730 to a 1227749 (or visa-versa), and that concerns the ALDL data output. The pin is different between the two ECMs. If you're staying with the '7730 (Which $59 will work with), then there are no pin changes needed.

There is more information at code59.org

Street Lethal, what exactly is it that you don't agree with?
I'm having a hard time understanding why you would suggest going to an $8F bin, that will require changes to the timing parameters that I feel are probably beyond fasteddi's skills at the present time, or using $58, that is the basis for $59, that would be any better for him than just starting with $59.

 

Heres the cheep ebay BOV

 

The "cheap" parts are not looking so cheap anymore.

 

I know its something, that it only cost 30 bucks. At least it matches my car...

 

Ok i mounted the exhaust charge piping to the car this afternoon, and I am happy with it for sure!! Looks nice(no clearence issues). Ill go buy some piping tommorow, and another 90* for the rest of the down piping. Then ill be done with the exhasut routing. Then off to the oil system. I think that once i get that all done, I will start the car and check for leaks in the exhaust before I route the charge air piping/InnerCol.

Its ok to start up the car when the turbo has everything hooked up except the air lines right???

 

Heres some pics. First off if i completly skip the cat, converter will the car be that much louder at low rpms/also sound like crap? Or will the turbo take some of the pulseation out?

Here it is bolted up. Clearence looks good, I just need to get 7ft of piping and a 90 to connect the downpiping I already made to the other exhaust , See where the piping in the middle of the car straightens out?? Thats where i am going to run the down piping.

What size coupler did people use from the charge pipe to the throttle body?? And where do i place the Intake temp sensor??

Dont worrie that lil red jack was to hold the exhasut pipe up while i bolted the flanges/donuts on.


Heres better pic to see what im talking about with running the down pipe, it will intersect the piping at the middle of the car, completly skipping the cat conv. and its curved piping.

 

some of the stuff has gone up in price , like the wastegates but u can still pick them up for around 40-50 bucks, the really good bovs are around 40 ( the rfl style ones)

the turbos on the other hand u can pick up a true 57mm unit like i have on my iroc for 120 shipped new they used to run about 200,

 

dave... If completly skip the cat, converter will the car be that much louder at low rpms/also sound like crap? Or will the turbo take some of the pulseation out?

And what size coupler to use from the charge pipe to the throttle body?? And where do i place the Intake temp sensor??

Sorry for all the questions man.. i know you did the install like how many times????

 

dam boards are acting up today i answered those ?,s already but it didnt post my post lol

no removing the cat wont make it sound like crap and the turbo will keep it pretty quiet

if ur using 2.5 inch charge pipes u need a 3 inch to 2.5 inch coupler for the tb, if ur using 3 inch pipes get a 3 inch coupler

air temp sensor should be between the intercooler and the tb

 

one more word of advice if u dont have an intercooler yet sont use the volvo 740 intercooler the extra 50 bucks u spend on a reg ebay fmic is well worth it

32x12x3 or 32x12x4 is the one u want with 3 inch inlets and outlets, if u end up using 2.5inch pipes just use reducers ont he intercoolers inlet and outlets

 

Ok im useing 2 1/2 inch charge piping. Thanks man, i wasnt sure if the TB being shaped oval would matter.

This board has been acting weird latley

 

http://www.highflowfuel.com/i-811410...cp-2530bl.html

$6.60 shipped not bad.. or is this too cheep..

 

Actually this looks alot better. for 10 bucks
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vibrant-1271...5970%26ps%3D54

 

no good its just silicone it will swell up when the intake gets hot an pop off

u need one like the first one 4 ply reinforced silicone
and a word of advice dont use worm gear clamps buy a ton of the ebay t-bolt clamps

 

Ok 4 ply it is. And yea i figured id need some of those t/clamps. Like about 6 or so of them. Ill have to figure that out..

 

i almost forgot my iroc approves this thread lmfao

 

 

lmao i couldnt help it i walked outside and saw how the snow fell and it made the car a smilling bastid

 

that actually looks pretty cool with the smaller headlight pockets. lol

 

shhh i already thought the same thing so no giving me ideas, i already thought about some 93-94 style headlights for the thing with some body mods of course

 

stealth mode! I like the lights too!

Our snows all melting its 45 out... weird winter!!

 

Heres is the piping I got rounded up. Its not welded up yet but will be. That gray stuff is x-haust cement so i know my welds are airtight..lol. I dont think i lost too much clearence as i will have the pipe as high as it will go and have x-oust hangers on the long piece of pipe.



This where the old and new pipe meet at the middle of the car.


This is the only way i can route the pipe so i hope the temps dont hurt the tranny pan.

 

I dont have one. Whats the best way to go on ebay?

 

I just bought a Mishmoto FMIC and it seems to be really nice.

Check them out: http://www.mishimoto.com/front-mount...ler-turbo.html

I'm going to replace my home made dual core Ford Super Coupe IC, with this one and compare functionality.

 

Im kindof on a tight tight budget.. would something like this work??
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MAZDA-JDM-28...item1e682150f6
Its only 28''x7''?? And it has alot of piping that im sure i could make fit, and couplers.. What do you guys think. The exhaust piping already cost me 50 bucks and thats not bad, but i still need the air charge stuff(innercol, piping, exc) and a wide band. Those seem to be the bigest $$ in this project.

 

Those are really nice but a little more then i can spend on a innercooler....

 

its a tube and fin design pass on it its not really that efficiant

 

save up the extra cash and get this or something like this
http://www.ebay.com/itm/UNIVERSAL-FR...item2ebac5d990

 

even better deal, http://www.ebay.com/itm/CXRacing-UNI...item43a9e297bb

 

if u can save the xtra bit of mney i recomend this as it will support future upgrades, 60-1 turbo,high boost hi hp


its basically the same unit i have on my tt iroc

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CXRacing-3-U...item20b50e3e62
and this kit is 56$ cheaper intercooler is only 3 inch thick instead of 4 and dosent come with the 2 90* couplers

http://www.ebay.com/itm/31X11-5X3-TU...item2a18963fd7

 

Would this one be fine for say...300+ hp?? Efficient. I could sweeze out 200 but 250-300 is a little to much for my crappy budget

 

Dam$ kits got a BOV with it too... i just got one...LOL

 

i was never really a fan of the tube and fin inter coolers nut for 200 bucks its not a bad deal it will be alot more efficiant then the volvo 740 intercooler which is still on my v6 car lol.

and if u need to upgrade down the road u can always sell the thing for 100 bucks by itself.

from the stuff i learned from my first turbokit is if u have plans to crank on it later its cheaper to buy the better and right stuff the first time around

 

Ok i need to just get some innercooler stuff and a wideband and that should be all the stuff i need. I ordered the oil line stuff yesterday, got the 3 band map(finally) today. Took 5 days to ship form florida?? Crazy!.

Do you think that exhaust is going to be ok?? The routing. I got a deal. 7ft 2 1/2 '' piece for 15 bucks at a buddies shop

 

ground clearance might be an issue,just be carefull pulling in and out of driveways that have slopes to them and high speed bumps

 

Yea ill just have to take it easy.. Its the only route i could take without having to pay out the A$$ for bent piping.

 

I was looking at the charge pipe routing and its pretty straight forward, except am I to cut slots in the lower air dam for the piping to go through??

 

yueah just notch the airdam were needed if u cant run it around the edges of the airdam

 

Ok thank again!

 

Should i put any sort of heat tape on the oil lines when i hook them all up???

Im going to try and get the bung welded on the oil pan, on friday, and get the lines somewhat set up.

Im dragging a** and still have not got a innercooler or WB o2 sensor..

 

Also anyone know the where a adapter pipe on e bay is for this BOV?
The kind that i dont have to weld on...

looks something like this for 2 1/2 charge pipe http://www.ebay.com/itm/BLOW-OFF-VAL...item231734dcb7

for 10 or so bucks, its easier then welding, and im almost certain the adapter they gave me with the BOV is alluminum, I plan to buy bulk 2 1/2 exhaust piping and welding that up myself.

 

Im about to buy this on.. I know I probly asked before but is this a ok kit for me?? Remember im broke.. and need to spend as little as possible, but need a decent AFR kit, dont wana tost my lil camaro.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Innovate-LC1...item3cbea77b21