Rims Camaro
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Rims Camaro
Hello I’m new to the group and this forum has helped me out a lot. I have looked quite a bit on here for an answer to my wheel fitment and if gotten half answers or incomplete replies. I have a 1991 camaro v6 RS and I ordered some new wheels from fitment industries. The wheel is 17x8 with 0 offset for the front and the rear. From what I found the offset in the front should clear and maybe even more since I will be running the Ls1 brakes in the front here pretty soon. The only issue that I have is the rears.
it’s the same size as the front (17x8 0 offset) will it clear without spacers and rubbing? I am also running 225/50 ZR17’s on the wheel as well. So will there be a clearance issue with the tires? I read 40 aspect ratio is the max you can run with 17’s….
anything helps plz!! And please no stupid replies I’m new to this and yes I know how to use the search bar I just haven’t found what I needed.
it’s the same size as the front (17x8 0 offset) will it clear without spacers and rubbing? I am also running 225/50 ZR17’s on the wheel as well. So will there be a clearance issue with the tires? I read 40 aspect ratio is the max you can run with 17’s….
anything helps plz!! And please no stupid replies I’m new to this and yes I know how to use the search bar I just haven’t found what I needed.
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You will be fine. No issues, ASSUMING there isn't anything specific about YOUR car that changes the other variables.
When we talk about brakes, offset and spoke/pad height and shape can all play a role, however, that's NOT what 99% of the fitment questions are in relation to. -including yours. We're typically talking about How TALL is the wheel/tire, how WIDE is the wheel/tire, and WHERE (in relation to the car) is the wheel/tire. If ANY of those deviate from stock, you could potentially have an issue, though it really depends how extreme the change is. The stock height, based on which tire, and how worn it is can really be anywhere from 25.5" to 26", so your combo at 25.9" is just right. Many of the higher trim cars came with 245 wide tires, and the Firehawks had 275 wide tires, so your 225 width is no problem. ....and WHERE the wheel/tire sits is a product of offset. Higher offset moves the wheel in, lower moves it out. 0mm is stock for most thirdgens, and the 16" wheel cars had +16mm (in back) which is only a quarter inch. Again, your 0mm offset will cause no issue. I'd have to say you are nowhere NEAR having a fitment issue.
Saying that you can't go larger than a 40 series tire with a 17" is probably correct in MANY cases, but isn't the correct way to express the facts. It assumes that most people going with bigger than stock wheels also want a wider tire. Additionally, the original thirdgen Firehawk (SLP) as well as the fourth gen SS and WS6 (again SLP) cars ALL ran a 275/40/17 tire. It was common, it looked good, it was known to fit and you could buy take offs regularly back in the day for cheap. Today, there are countless options that utilize that tire size for our cars. All the Hawk's replica's all the YearOne replica's, etc. etc. ....and if we do the math, it puts the overall height in that perfect range, right at 25.7" tall. .....and then of course, many people go WIDER than 275 too.....so given all that, you could say that with a 17".....on a thirdgen.....you can't go higher than a 40 series on a 17" wheel. BUT....you'd be wrong. What people SHOULD say is that if you're going wider than stock, you can't go higher than a 40 series. The "40" number is just a percentage of width. 40% of a 275mm tire is perfect! 40% of a 295 is too high! .....40% of your 225mm width is too low! .....for a 225mm tire, 50 series is spot on perfect!!!!
When we talk about brakes, offset and spoke/pad height and shape can all play a role, however, that's NOT what 99% of the fitment questions are in relation to. -including yours. We're typically talking about How TALL is the wheel/tire, how WIDE is the wheel/tire, and WHERE (in relation to the car) is the wheel/tire. If ANY of those deviate from stock, you could potentially have an issue, though it really depends how extreme the change is. The stock height, based on which tire, and how worn it is can really be anywhere from 25.5" to 26", so your combo at 25.9" is just right. Many of the higher trim cars came with 245 wide tires, and the Firehawks had 275 wide tires, so your 225 width is no problem. ....and WHERE the wheel/tire sits is a product of offset. Higher offset moves the wheel in, lower moves it out. 0mm is stock for most thirdgens, and the 16" wheel cars had +16mm (in back) which is only a quarter inch. Again, your 0mm offset will cause no issue. I'd have to say you are nowhere NEAR having a fitment issue.
Saying that you can't go larger than a 40 series tire with a 17" is probably correct in MANY cases, but isn't the correct way to express the facts. It assumes that most people going with bigger than stock wheels also want a wider tire. Additionally, the original thirdgen Firehawk (SLP) as well as the fourth gen SS and WS6 (again SLP) cars ALL ran a 275/40/17 tire. It was common, it looked good, it was known to fit and you could buy take offs regularly back in the day for cheap. Today, there are countless options that utilize that tire size for our cars. All the Hawk's replica's all the YearOne replica's, etc. etc. ....and if we do the math, it puts the overall height in that perfect range, right at 25.7" tall. .....and then of course, many people go WIDER than 275 too.....so given all that, you could say that with a 17".....on a thirdgen.....you can't go higher than a 40 series on a 17" wheel. BUT....you'd be wrong. What people SHOULD say is that if you're going wider than stock, you can't go higher than a 40 series. The "40" number is just a percentage of width. 40% of a 275mm tire is perfect! 40% of a 295 is too high! .....40% of your 225mm width is too low! .....for a 225mm tire, 50 series is spot on perfect!!!!
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You will be fine. No issues, ASSUMING there isn't anything specific about YOUR car that changes the other variables.
When we talk about brakes, offset and spoke/pad height and shape can all play a role, however, that's NOT what 99% of the fitment questions are in relation to. -including yours. We're typically talking about How TALL is the wheel/tire, how WIDE is the wheel/tire, and WHERE (in relation to the car) is the wheel/tire. If ANY of those deviate from stock, you could potentially have an issue, though it really depends how extreme the change is. The stock height, based on which tire, and how worn it is can really be anywhere from 25.5" to 26", so your combo at 25.9" is just right. Many of the higher trim cars came with 245 wide tires, and the Firehawks had 275 wide tires, so your 225 width is no problem. ....and WHERE the wheel/tire sits is a product of offset. Higher offset moves the wheel in, lower moves it out. 0mm is stock for most thirdgens, and the 16" wheel cars had +16mm (in back) which is only a quarter inch. Again, your 0mm offset will cause no issue. I'd have to say you are nowhere NEAR having a fitment issue.
Saying that you can't go larger than a 40 series tire with a 17" is probably correct in MANY cases, but isn't the correct way to express the facts. It assumes that most people going with bigger than stock wheels also want a wider tire. Additionally, the original thirdgen Firehawk (SLP) as well as the fourth gen SS and WS6 (again SLP) cars ALL ran a 275/40/17 tire. It was common, it looked good, it was known to fit and you could buy take offs regularly back in the day for cheap. Today, there are countless options that utilize that tire size for our cars. All the Hawk's replica's all the YearOne replica's, etc. etc. ....and if we do the math, it puts the overall height in that perfect range, right at 25.7" tall. .....and then of course, many people go WIDER than 275 too.....so given all that, you could say that with a 17".....on a thirdgen.....you can't go higher than a 40 series on a 17" wheel. BUT....you'd be wrong. What people SHOULD say is that if you're going wider than stock, you can't go higher than a 40 series. The "40" number is just a percentage of width. 40% of a 275mm tire is perfect! 40% of a 295 is too high! .....40% of your 225mm width is too low! .....for a 225mm tire, 50 series is spot on perfect!!!!
When we talk about brakes, offset and spoke/pad height and shape can all play a role, however, that's NOT what 99% of the fitment questions are in relation to. -including yours. We're typically talking about How TALL is the wheel/tire, how WIDE is the wheel/tire, and WHERE (in relation to the car) is the wheel/tire. If ANY of those deviate from stock, you could potentially have an issue, though it really depends how extreme the change is. The stock height, based on which tire, and how worn it is can really be anywhere from 25.5" to 26", so your combo at 25.9" is just right. Many of the higher trim cars came with 245 wide tires, and the Firehawks had 275 wide tires, so your 225 width is no problem. ....and WHERE the wheel/tire sits is a product of offset. Higher offset moves the wheel in, lower moves it out. 0mm is stock for most thirdgens, and the 16" wheel cars had +16mm (in back) which is only a quarter inch. Again, your 0mm offset will cause no issue. I'd have to say you are nowhere NEAR having a fitment issue.
Saying that you can't go larger than a 40 series tire with a 17" is probably correct in MANY cases, but isn't the correct way to express the facts. It assumes that most people going with bigger than stock wheels also want a wider tire. Additionally, the original thirdgen Firehawk (SLP) as well as the fourth gen SS and WS6 (again SLP) cars ALL ran a 275/40/17 tire. It was common, it looked good, it was known to fit and you could buy take offs regularly back in the day for cheap. Today, there are countless options that utilize that tire size for our cars. All the Hawk's replica's all the YearOne replica's, etc. etc. ....and if we do the math, it puts the overall height in that perfect range, right at 25.7" tall. .....and then of course, many people go WIDER than 275 too.....so given all that, you could say that with a 17".....on a thirdgen.....you can't go higher than a 40 series on a 17" wheel. BUT....you'd be wrong. What people SHOULD say is that if you're going wider than stock, you can't go higher than a 40 series. The "40" number is just a percentage of width. 40% of a 275mm tire is perfect! 40% of a 295 is too high! .....40% of your 225mm width is too low! .....for a 225mm tire, 50 series is spot on perfect!!!!
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Re: Rims Camaro
Would it rub since the rear end is wider?
that’s not an issue for me unless it affects performance.
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Most people have rubbing on the INSIDE. ...and it's when they go with a much wider tire. The fact that the 4th gen rear pushes the wheels out, you'd NEVER hit anywhere close on the inside. As for the OUTSIDE.....my guess is that even if you lowered the car to the bumpstops, you'd still be sitting inside the fender lip since you've only got a 225mm width. -not totally sure though. Still, that's pretty darn low!!!!!!! I'd say you could lower the car quite a bit, widen the rear track with a 4th gen unit, and still not rub. But like with so many things....once you start changing stuff.....you really gotta measure.....play around with it.....test things out.
Are we talking day to day performance? No....the wider rear won't really be hugely different. ....if we're talking actual performance handling characteristics, I'm not sure wider on the rear....especially ONLY the rear....is really what you'd want. Suspension geometry and how it affects handling is quite complex and goes deeper than my understanding can properly explain. -but then, I'm not sure a 225mm tire is the ultimate track tire either, so my guess is you're after a solid street driving car, and no....the wider rear shouldn't be an issue, so long as you're ok with the looks!
Are we talking day to day performance? No....the wider rear won't really be hugely different. ....if we're talking actual performance handling characteristics, I'm not sure wider on the rear....especially ONLY the rear....is really what you'd want. Suspension geometry and how it affects handling is quite complex and goes deeper than my understanding can properly explain. -but then, I'm not sure a 225mm tire is the ultimate track tire either, so my guess is you're after a solid street driving car, and no....the wider rear shouldn't be an issue, so long as you're ok with the looks!
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Happy to help. ....I've been here for 20+ years, and I've learned most of what I know from others here, on THIS site. I'm a toddler compared to SOME of the guys on here. Still, I try to pass on the knowledge when I can.
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