Treys_IROC

Just what the title says, i'm curious as to the pro's and con's of shorty's and long tube's.

Thanks for any input,

Trey

zNucleaRz

Shorties better clearence but worse flow long tubes worse clearence better flow.

Treys_IROC

Which one's are easier to install, without having to modify a bunch of stuff?

Apeiron

Shortys, no question.

GreenChevelleSS

would shortys be ok to use with a stock TPI350 with a 9 psi boost?

zNucleaRz

Sure will there’s nothing wrong with shorties at all they will flow better than you stock manifolds. If you get HOK-2055's or SLP's 1 3/4" headers they should be good to probably about 450hp after you should upgrade to long tubes.

BulliTooth

ya depends on what u want to do. if ur going to run crazy hp get longtubes but if ur not get shortys

GTA Sammy

iTrader: (1)

Go shorties man!!!!! Just did the longtube setup on my GTA and I notice that you have an Automatic Transmission.........So do I......... I found that the Tranny Crossmember hangs too low and that the trans oil pan doesn't leave much room for modifications. This means that you'll have to run a y-pipe beneath the Tranny crossmember and if the roads are like mine here in WPG. You'll be scaping everywhere you go.........

Air_Adam

A good set of shorties like Hooker or SLP will support a 350 just fine to around 350-400hp.

GreenChevelleSS

what do you have to do to install shorties?

zNucleaRz

Here are somthings you will need about 8hr's, some basic hand tools, a sawzaw with metal blades preferred, if not a hand saw, some emission's hose for the check valves, stage 8 locking bolts (not necessary but they are great to have). Then just follow the instructions.

DanTheMan_smlk

shorties! ease of installation and ground clearance

18inchboyds

shorties is what im gonna go with since i need ground clearance, and also shorties are good enough for a 500 hp c6 zo6 with a 427 , i mean their not true shorties but their deffy not long tubes, but i also read an article from kooks that longtubes gave a regular c6 vette 30 rwhp .

Air_Adam

It depends on which set you get, and what engine you have. I got a set of Hedman shorties, and I have a carb'd 350 with no emitions or computer controls. All I had to do to install mine was remove the drivers side valve cover.

An engine like a TPI, with all its hoses and wiring, might make installation a bit more complicated, and different sets of headers fit differently than others. SLP headers I know are a pretty tight fit in these cars.

BulliTooth

do some searching...i never did a header install and i did it. i searched and searched theres some good reads and it seems everyone had a diffrent problem or had to install them diffrently. i had to jack the motor on the passenger side broke my fan switch drop the starter pull my dipstick and then the pass header fell right in....lol but in the end it was well worth it. dont bother reading the instrucions that came with them there basic to say the least

smokefan

i have shorties now but i want to go with long tubes.

dennisbernal91z

iTrader: (2)

I am going with LT's but that is because i am running a 500 HP 383. And all the roads by where I live are almost perfect.

GTA Sammy

iTrader: (1)

Dennis doin the long tube thing should be OK cause you have the standard tranny......... it's not the tubes or collector that are the problem. It's the tranny cross member and with the standard tranny you have more room on each side of the tail section. You can even cut the crossmember to make more room........ check out what one of the guys did on my post exhaust too low

DanTheMan_smlk

read this thread https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...hreadid=308493

i asked EVERY single dumb n00b question there is when i installed my headers

dennisbernal91z

iTrader: (2)

GTA Sammy I hope you are right. I am still questioning what will happen when the collectors get to the crossmember. It is an aftermarket spohn one that came with my TQ arm. I will post an problems I have as they come up.