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Old 12-18-2012, 10:11 PM
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Too good to be true?

You all know the old saying "If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is." I'm at one of those points. Thoughts on this?

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/engi...-platinum.html

It strikes me as odd that for a nearly brand new set of heads, he's selling them for nearly half the retail cost. But his iTrader feedback shows 14 positives, and a join date of 2005.

At first, he asked to send money through PayPal as a gift, and that was a dealbreaker for me. So he said he would do the deal normally, with an invoice.

I've read through the PayPal ToU, and it appears that if he scams me, I'll be reimbursed, but I don't want to rely on that if it comes down to it. It's quite a bit of money, and naturally I'm a bit paranoid.

So what do you guys think? Too good to be true?
Old 12-18-2012, 10:23 PM
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Re: Too good to be true?

I doubt it's a scam, but if you wanted me to. I live pretty close to him, I could drive down and check them out for you. I was gonna go pick up some louver from him also.
Old 12-21-2012, 10:30 AM
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Re: Too good to be true?

I've known Steve to be a pretty stand-up guy. He's a fellow local thirdgen owner that I would not expect to rip off another thirdgen fan, or anyone else for that matter.

"Gifting'" a payment thru PayPal means they would not be taking any service charge to complete the $ transfer. Simply calling it "Merchandise" allows Paypal to charge a 4% transaction fee - about $25 - for the exact same transaction.


Old 12-29-2012, 10:31 PM
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Re: Too good to be true?

gifting money also takes away any protection you have from paypal
Old 12-30-2012, 07:59 PM
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Re: Too good to be true?

An update to this: I decided to buy the heads thanks to feedback from a few members on here. He completely understood my defensive position about buying on the internet. I did not gift the money though, as I was aware of people being scammed that way. He said they should be shipped in the next few days or so, so I'll update then. Thanks all.
Old 01-18-2013, 09:04 PM
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Re: Too good to be true?

Originally Posted by John in RI
I've known Steve to be a pretty stand-up guy. He's a fellow local thirdgen owner that I would not expect to rip off another thirdgen fan, or anyone else for that matter.

"Gifting'" a payment thru PayPal means they would not be taking any service charge to complete the $ transfer. Simply calling it "Merchandise" allows Paypal to charge a 4% transaction fee - about $25 - for the exact same transaction.


thanks jon...much appreciated....as for i am not out there to rip anyone off whether it be another 3rd gen owner or any other individual either. And yes sending the money as a gift avoids the fee from paypal but paypal will still cover the purchase regardless due to the new policies.
Old 01-18-2013, 09:07 PM
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Re: Too good to be true?

Originally Posted by PhoenixFirebird
An update to this: I decided to buy the heads thanks to feedback from a few members on here. He completely understood my defensive position about buying on the internet. I did not gift the money though, as I was aware of people being scammed that way. He said they should be shipped in the next few days or so, so I'll update then. Thanks all.
They were shipped as promised and a tracking number was sent a couple days after.

Glad you got them safely and are happy with them.
Old 01-19-2013, 08:40 AM
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Re: Too good to be true?

User agreement


4.1 Receiving Personal Payments. If you are selling goods or services, you may not ask the buyer to send you a Personal Payment for the purchase. If you do so, PayPal may remove your ability to accept Personal Payments.



13.3 Ineligible Items. PayPal Purchase Protection only applies to PayPal payments for certain tangible, physical goods. Payments for the following are not eligible for reimbursement under PayPal Purchase Protection:

Intangible items, including Digital Goods
Services
Real estate, including residential property
Businesses
Vehicles, including motor vehicles, motorcycles, caravans, aircraft and boats
Custom-made items
Travel tickets, including airline flight tickets
Items prohibited by the PayPal Acceptable Use Policy
Items which you collect in person or arrange to be collected on your behalf, including items bought through In-Store Checkout at the retail point of sale (unless bought using PayPal Grace Period, see Eligibility Requirements above)
Items that violate eBay’s Prohibited or Restricted Items Policy
Industrial machinery used in manufacturing
Items equivalent to cash, including prepaid or gift cards
PayPal Direct Payments
Virtual Terminal Payments
Personal Payments


If you are selling "goods" it must be paid for as such or it will not be covered. Sending any money as a gift for goods will not be.

Glad it worked out though and you both are happy.
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