i was thinking aout getting edelbrock TES headers, are they hard to put on, my dad is trying to talk me out of it, he says they rot out fairly fast, and they wouldnt add much power with a y-pipe, any of this true,

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Trent
---Car---
89 Firebird
305 L03 TBI A4
t-tops
Open Element Edelbrock Aircleaner w/ K&N air filter
Summit Chrome Valve Covers

---Stero---
Pioneer DEH-P730 Premium
Infinity 2way 4652 4x6's
Pioneer 4way ts-a6985 6x9's
profile cl640 110x4

Future:im profile 1200sx 900watt x 1, and a pioneer cdx-p1270 12 disk cd changer

 

I wouldn't say they will rot out quickly. They will rust, although I don't know how fast they would rust completely through. If you are going to do the Edelbrock's, definitely get them coated by a company such as Jet-Hot. They provide a lifetime warranty on rust through. You will certainly get a power gain out of them b/c they are less restrictive than the stock manifolds, especially the y-pipe. As far as how difficult they are to install, it is not difficult, just very time consuming. I would recommend doing a search on this topic as it has been discussed numerous times. That way you can find more info and get others opinions on the subject. Later

Matt

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irocet@hotmail.com

drive.to/Stang_Kilr

88 IROC-Z -- 350 L-98, 700R4, Flowmaster, Edelbrock Headers, Catco Cat, K&N, MAF Sceens Removed, Airfoil, March Pullies, Comp Cams Magnum 1.6 Roller Rockers, Bosch Platinum Plugs, Accel 8.8 mm Wires, MSD 6AL, Hypertech Cap & Coil, Hypertech Chip, Hotchkis Strut Tower Brace

 

open element, full exaust, and a bump in fuel pressure will get you 50 HP easy over stock 170HP

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-Tas
'89 Formula WS.6

Got Beach?

 

should i stick with a cat, strait pipe, or gutted cat, im planning on getting a flomaster catback, should i get 2.5" or 3"

 

If you want Flowmaster, I would recommend the American Thunder series. It's 3" with dual 3" exits. Stainless steel too. Sounds real nice and loud but it does take about 2 months to get it that way. At first it's raspy sounding when cold but each time you drive it you will notice it getting more and more throaty. It's definately the way to go if your going to drop a 350 in down the road.

Bugs


[This message has been edited by Bugsbunny2 (edited October 18, 2001).]

 

I would go with the Hooker cat-back. Haven't heard any bad things about and I love mine. Do some searching on these boards and there is a soundclip of the Hooker. And I would recommend getting them coated. Took several months for mine to start rusting. Also it took my brother and I about 6 hours to install, and it is a great performance additive over the restrictive exhaust manifolds. I think your Dad is trying to get you to save money. I hear it all the time.

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"Rice burners are like tampons...Every pu$$y has to have one"
'86 IROC
T-TOPS, TINTED WINDOWS, BRAKE LIGHT BLACKOUTS
GM GOODWRENCH 350
EDELBROCK TES HEADERS
3" Hooker CatBack w/Aero Chamber muffler
EDELBROCK 600CFM CARB.
KN AIRFILTER
ACCEL HEI DISTRIBUTOR
160* Stat, just switched to 180* b/c of winter coming and going to college in the mts.
3:73 Posi
Rebuilt 700R4
B&M Megashifter, 5" Autometer Tach w/shift lite

 

i think im going to stay with the 305 in this car, simply because im 17 and i dont have any money, but will a 3" be to big? the american thunder, is it loud, i want loud, some kid at skool put a flomaster on his v6 maro, can hardly hear the thing, even when he mashes the gas

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Trent
---Car---
89 Firebird
305 L03 TBI A4
t-tops
Open Element Edelbrock Aircleaner w/ K&N air filter
Summit Chrome Valve Covers

---Stero---
Pioneer DEH-P730 Premium
Infinity 2way 4652 4x6's
Pioneer 4way ts-a6985 6x9's
profile cl640 110x4

Future:im profile 1200sx 900watt x 1, and a pioneer cdx-p1270 12 disk cd changer

 

the stock manifolds have rust on them, what do stock brand new manifolds look like?

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- David
88' GTA 5.7L TPI MODS---> air foil, K&N, Shift Kit, 180* therm, TB bypass, Gutted CAT, Flowmaster 80 Series

http://www.geocities.com/david_angel_16

 

Come to think of it I dont think I have ever seen a manifold without ANY rust, unless it is extremely new.

 

3" will be too big until you get headers but then, when you do, the package will be perfect.

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-Tas
'89 Formula WS.6

Got Beach?

 

i plan on getting headers first, with a 3" out, 3" cat, then put a reducer to my 2.5" exaust, then a week or so, ill get a catback, when i get paid again

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Trent
---Car---
89 Firebird
305 L03 TBI A4
t-tops
Open Element Edelbrock Aircleaner w/ K&N air filter
Summit Chrome Valve Covers

---Stero---
Pioneer DEH-P730 Premium
Infinity 2way 4652 4x6's
Pioneer 4way ts-a6985 6x9's
profile cl640 110x4

Future:im profile 1200sx 900watt x 1, and a pioneer cdx-p1270 12 disk cd changer

[This message has been edited by Trent257 (edited October 18, 2001).]

 

a week or so? damn i wish i had your job...im doing headers first, anyone know how exp$$ive it is the get headers coated? what about a catback coated?

 

is the american thunder stainless, and how hard is it to put an exaust on, last time the shop did it, and im running outta money, i can weld a little, and my dad welded for 15 years, so thats no problem, also what size cat do i need, like length, im ordering all this from summit, all they have is catco

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Trent
---Car---
89 Firebird
305 L03 TBI A4
t-tops
Open Element Edelbrock Aircleaner w/ K&N air filter
Summit Chrome Valve Covers

---Stero---
Pioneer DEH-P730 Premium
Infinity 2way 4652 4x6's
Pioneer 4way ts-a6985 6x9's
profile cl640 110x4

Future:im profile 1200sx 900watt x 1, and a pioneer cdx-p1270 12 disk cd changer

 

also the exaust on my car is about 3000 miles old, no rust, is there any chance i could sell it, like on ebay, its nothing special, just 2.5 tubes, i paid like 175-200 for it

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Trent
---Car---
89 Firebird
305 L03 TBI A4
t-tops
Open Element Edelbrock Aircleaner w/ K&N air filter
Summit Chrome Valve Covers

---Stero---
Pioneer DEH-P730 Premium
Infinity 2way 4652 4x6's
Pioneer 4way ts-a6985 6x9's
profile cl640 110x4

Future:im profile 1200sx 900watt x 1, and a pioneer cdx-p1270 12 disk cd changer

 

How would you 'bump' the fuel pressure? And how does it get you better performance having higher fuel pressure?

 

i would think, get a better fuel pump, more fuel=more power, not sure tho

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Trent
---Car---
89 Firebird
305 L03 TBI A4
t-tops
Open Element Edelbrock Aircleaner w/ K&N air filter
Summit Chrome Valve Covers

---Stero---
Pioneer DEH-P730 Premium
Infinity 2way 4652 4x6's
Pioneer 4way ts-a6985 6x9's
profile cl640 110x4

Future:im profile 1200sx 900watt x 1, and a pioneer cdx-p1270 12 disk cd changer

 

Not necessarily, there is a point of running rich which isn't good for a motor.

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"Rice burners are like tampons...Every pu$$y has to have one"
'86 IROC
T-TOPS, TINTED WINDOWS, BRAKE LIGHT BLACKOUTS
GM GOODWRENCH 350
EDELBROCK TES HEADERS
3" Hooker CatBack w/Aero Chamber muffler
EDELBROCK 600CFM CARB.
KN AIRFILTER
ACCEL HEI DISTRIBUTOR
160* Stat, just switched to 180* b/c of winter coming and going to college in the mts.
3:73 Posi
Rebuilt 700R4
B&M Megashifter, 5" Autometer Tach w/shift lite

 

yeah, but factory settings are on the lean side to boost fuel economy.

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91 formula WS6 305 tpi, true dual exhaust