Exhaust Post your questions and suggestions about stock or aftermarket exhaust setups. Third Gen exhaust sound files and videos!

header gaskets

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 12:46 PM
  #1  
dennisbernal91z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,500
Likes: 90
From: West Warwick RI, postal code: 02893
Car: Building LS3, T56 Z28
Engine: LS3
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: Moser/ 4.11
header gaskets

I am running trickflow heads, Al. 23* ones. On them are hooker 2210s. i am sure you have herd of them.

They are leaking. What gaskets should I run? There are sooo many kinds and brands. Also the port shapes are a bit confusing. The trickflow site says they are D-shaped. So thats how I searched on summit and still get sooo many results.

I feel like I should go with deadsoft Aluminum, I already have the lock bolts. I tried searching, but have only been able to learn that I most likely want to with Al, or copper.

Although I was at a show a week or so ago and a guy told me he bought a set of Carbon or carbon fiber gaskets... I was confused since I had never herd of those and he says they seal increadibly.

Any advice would help out a lot. I gotta get this fixed real soon. Thanks.
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 02:05 PM
  #2  
HCR13's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,212
Likes: 0
From: Augusta, Ga
Car: 1987 Trans Am
Engine: 355ci L98 soon to be turbo'd
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.73 posi
Re: header gaskets

I went with the deadsoft layered aluminum gaskets. For my collecters, I used the paper gaskets and copper gaskets (nice sandwich). I've had good results. Just keep going back and retighten your bolts...
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 06:31 PM
  #3  
UNCLE TOM's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,403
Likes: 4
From: ms. gulf coast
Car: 91 R/S , 89 dodge p/u
Engine: L31 GM crate re-cammed , 318
Transmission: T-5 , 4 speed auto
Axle/Gears: 3.42 , ?
Re: header gaskets

i used the mister gasket copper ones on mine and blue locktite on the bolts . no problems after 8 months and 2 long road trips . i also used aluma seal / soft seal on the collectors . im happy with mine !!!
Reply
Old Aug 21, 2007 | 06:53 PM
  #4  
raptor80dad's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 348
Likes: 0
From: So.MD
Car: 92rs
Engine: 350
Transmission: 350
Axle/Gears: 3.73/Moser 12bolt
Re: header gaskets

copper here with no problems
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 07:24 AM
  #5  
dennisbernal91z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,500
Likes: 90
From: West Warwick RI, postal code: 02893
Car: Building LS3, T56 Z28
Engine: LS3
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: Moser/ 4.11
Re: header gaskets

Thanks for the replies guys.

If you don't mind, can you post what heads you have and what company gasket you went with too.

I have trickflow heads on a GEN I block, so the heads are D port, but not like an LT1. I can kinda confused as to what part #s I need. A call to trickflow will most likely solve the problem.

But just curious what you all have. THX
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 07:45 AM
  #6  
UNCLE TOM's Avatar
Supreme Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,403
Likes: 4
From: ms. gulf coast
Car: 91 R/S , 89 dodge p/u
Engine: L31 GM crate re-cammed , 318
Transmission: T-5 , 4 speed auto
Axle/Gears: 3.42 , ?
Re: header gaskets

i just have the stock lo3 heads on mine . round port .
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 10:09 AM
  #7  
dennisbernal91z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,500
Likes: 90
From: West Warwick RI, postal code: 02893
Car: Building LS3, T56 Z28
Engine: LS3
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: Moser/ 4.11
Re: header gaskets

OK, mine say that they are D-port and that is confusing me. Should I get D-port gaskets or just some square ones. The dimentions that the gaskets list are never the same as my heads list. Not sure what to do.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 10:28 AM
  #8  
alpine247's Avatar
Member
 
Joined: Jun 2006
Posts: 391
Likes: 1
From: NC johnston co
Car: 1988 IROC-Z
Engine: 350 TPI
Transmission: 700r4
Axle/Gears: 2.77 posi stock
Re: header gaskets

use reg manifold gaskets they last twice as long and only cost 6bucks..
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 10:52 AM
  #9  
HCR13's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Dec 2006
Posts: 2,212
Likes: 0
From: Augusta, Ga
Car: 1987 Trans Am
Engine: 355ci L98 soon to be turbo'd
Transmission: 700R4
Axle/Gears: 2.73 posi
Re: header gaskets

I have regular LB9 heads, and I used Mr.Gasket (only because they didn't have anymore Percy's) I believe they are the square ports...
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 12:37 PM
  #10  
dennisbernal91z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,500
Likes: 90
From: West Warwick RI, postal code: 02893
Car: Building LS3, T56 Z28
Engine: LS3
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: Moser/ 4.11
Re: header gaskets

well I called my local speed shop and they said they have a set of copper, normal stock, and the ultra seal. Then I said "oh great, copper" and the guy said I don't recomend them for the street, they will just blow out". I said ok, and hung up.

Is that guy a dead wrong, or should I just get the copper?

Maybe I should just go with the ultra-seals for now, till I can get some Al. ones...
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 12:55 PM
  #11  
25thannivZ28's Avatar
Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 405
Likes: 9
From: Wisconsin
Car: 1992 Z28 Camaro w/70k
Engine: 427 w/4" Mufflex Exhaust
Transmission: 700R4 3500 stall
Axle/Gears: 4.10:1
Re: header gaskets

I have Trickflow heads & SLP Headers...for the longest time i've used Fel-pro, I doubled up when needed. I went through like 4 sets in a year & a half. I found a brand called Remflex. They warranty their gaskets. It is some sort of graphite like material that compresses as you torque it down. They actually ask you to torque it to 25FtLbs but I just got them all evenly tight. The gasket itself is 1/4 in thick. When you tighten it to 25ftlbs or equivilent, it will crush to 1/8 in. When the gasket heats up, it expands & fills in all voids & potential future leaks. NO RE-TIGHTENING REQUIRED, actually its recomended not to. I think I paid like 38 bucks, mail ordered over the phone. These had lasted me nearly 2 years & 20,000 miles.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 12:59 PM
  #12  
dennisbernal91z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,500
Likes: 90
From: West Warwick RI, postal code: 02893
Car: Building LS3, T56 Z28
Engine: LS3
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: Moser/ 4.11
Re: header gaskets

You have part #, or will it be obvious what part I need if I just google that company?
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 01:08 PM
  #13  
dennisbernal91z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,500
Likes: 90
From: West Warwick RI, postal code: 02893
Car: Building LS3, T56 Z28
Engine: LS3
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: Moser/ 4.11
Re: header gaskets

I went to their site. Stuff looks good. I am still in the *** about what set I need. I have 23* al. trickflow heads. They have D ports but they are not LT1 or brodix . Do I just get the SBC square ones?
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 02:10 PM
  #14  
25thannivZ28's Avatar
Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 405
Likes: 9
From: Wisconsin
Car: 1992 Z28 Camaro w/70k
Engine: 427 w/4" Mufflex Exhaust
Transmission: 700R4 3500 stall
Axle/Gears: 4.10:1
Re: header gaskets

The phone # i used was (360) 492-3100. I just called them & they asked what it is that I have, oval or square, what motor, heads & etc. They then gave me the part that I needed. Good tech service over the phone.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 02:13 PM
  #15  
dennisbernal91z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,500
Likes: 90
From: West Warwick RI, postal code: 02893
Car: Building LS3, T56 Z28
Engine: LS3
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: Moser/ 4.11
Re: header gaskets

Sounds great. I will buy some crappy ones for now, and next week order a set of those.
Reply
Old Aug 22, 2007 | 10:10 PM
  #16  
Tobias05's Avatar
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Jul 2003
Posts: 2,779
Likes: 2
From: any clime or place...
Car: 1987 Camaro SC, 1999 Z28
Engine: GMPP 350HO, LS1
Transmission: Built 700r4/EDGE 3200, T56
Axle/Gears: 3.42 Eaton 7.625, 3.42 Zexel Torsen
Re: header gaskets

i got the percy's dead soft aluminum with locking header bolts, no problems here.

I also got all too familiar with changing header gaskets every other month...
Reply
Old Aug 23, 2007 | 07:06 AM
  #17  
dennisbernal91z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,500
Likes: 90
From: West Warwick RI, postal code: 02893
Car: Building LS3, T56 Z28
Engine: LS3
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: Moser/ 4.11
Re: header gaskets

I think I am going that route. Percy's or that other company recomended earlier. i just want something with the right port size. I picked up a set from the local speed shop, they were ulta seals, the ports were TINNY. So i didn't put them on and I just re-toqued my old ones.
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2007 | 08:27 AM
  #18  
dennisbernal91z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,500
Likes: 90
From: West Warwick RI, postal code: 02893
Car: Building LS3, T56 Z28
Engine: LS3
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: Moser/ 4.11
Re: header gaskets

25thannivZ28: Looks like I am going with what you recommended. I am calling later today to order some. I tried buying some off the shelf crap and the holes were soooo small it would be like corking up my motor. So I just re-torqued what I had on there.

You think this is the best stuff though?
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2007 | 09:55 AM
  #19  
25thannivZ28's Avatar
Member
20 Year Member
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 405
Likes: 9
From: Wisconsin
Car: 1992 Z28 Camaro w/70k
Engine: 427 w/4" Mufflex Exhaust
Transmission: 700R4 3500 stall
Axle/Gears: 4.10:1
Re: header gaskets

Originally Posted by dennisbernal91z
25thannivZ28: Looks like I am going with what you recommended. I am calling later today to order some. I tried buying some off the shelf crap and the holes were soooo small it would be like corking up my motor. So I just re-torqued what I had on there.

You think this is the best stuff though?

From all the gaskets I've used, this is what I found to be the best. They ask to torque the bolts down, but I couldn't find a way to get a torque wrench on all bolts, so I just evenly tightened them down by hand. Hasn't failed me yet, so I'd say go for it!
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2007 | 10:46 AM
  #20  
Dyno Don's Avatar
Supreme Member
25 Year Member
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Mar 2000
Posts: 5,703
Likes: 132
From: Orange, CA
Car: '90 Trans Am-12.45@110.71
Engine: 355 w/AFR 195's Elem. 400/430 HP/TQ
Transmission: Tremec T-56
Axle/Gears: 12 Bolt 3.73
Re: header gaskets

Everybody has an opinion but, the Earl's gaskets have a lot more advantages than others.

I have never had one blow out even when the bolts fell out.
They also have replacment inserts.

Check them out here:http://store.summitracing.com/partde...5&autoview=sku
Reply
Old Aug 27, 2007 | 01:39 PM
  #21  
dennisbernal91z's Avatar
Thread Starter
Supreme Member
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Feb 2005
Posts: 4,500
Likes: 90
From: West Warwick RI, postal code: 02893
Car: Building LS3, T56 Z28
Engine: LS3
Transmission: T-56
Axle/Gears: Moser/ 4.11
Re: header gaskets

Yeah, but from the look of the pic, they don't have the little ears on the end that make installing them easy. I took all the bolts out last week to try and take the gaskets out, to see if something was wrong with them. It was a PAIN to install the headers again while attached to the exhaust still. If they have the ears, then they are a maybe. If not then I am going with some Percy Carbon XX pieces. I talked to a guy at a show and he loved them. Said he shot them with a blow torch and they didn't burn or deflect. I am going to try them and see. If they fail, I will move up to the insert kind.
Reply
Related Topics
Thread
Thread Starter
Forum
Replies
Last Post
z 28 jari
Exhaust
7
Sep 14, 2021 10:03 PM
Chad Speier
Engine/Drivetrain/Suspension Parts for Sale
3
Sep 24, 2015 12:32 PM
bamaboy0323
Exhaust
7
Sep 12, 2015 07:14 PM
hdis2002
Exhaust
2
Sep 8, 2015 02:52 PM
dmtz956
LSX and LTX Parts
1
Sep 7, 2015 10:16 PM




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:20 PM.