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Thought you fellas might be interested in my recent pick up. It’s an 89’ 350 Iroc Hardtop with 137xxxkm (Canadian). It’s a total “garage find”, hence the filth. It’s a 2 owner car that’s almost completely rust free, and totally unmodified in any way that I can see. Apparently the trans is shot but I haven’t tried to drive it so we’ll see. Paint is original and seems to be in excellent condition under the dirt, and underneath is very clean. Interior is in fantastic shape too minus a sagging headliner and a broken horn button. I haven’t dragged it home yet but immediate plans are to replace all the fluids and after a full check over, see if she’ll run as it should. Tomorrow once I have it out, I’ll take more pics and update everyone as I go.

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On the assumption that this thing needs a full suspension overhaul, what parts do you guys recommend? I'm looking for a basic stock ride, no upgrades or anything for now. I see enough suggestions in other forums, but most of which are upgrades. I'm literally after cost and purpose, that's it for now.
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Nice find !
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Thanks guys. I've always wanted an Iroc in the collection but finding anything decent around me is damn near impossible, so I'm pretty excited to dive in to this thing
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Looks GREAT! For the ride, I used KYB Excel-G's but I think they are too soft. I've heard Koni yellows are good, Bilstein is probably a good replacement but I have heard nothing. I am thining about upgrading to the KYB Gas Adjusts as my Excel-G's are too soft for the stock springs.
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[QUOTE=RKeats;6295429]On the assumption that this thing needs a full suspension overhaul, what parts do you guys recommend? I'm looking for a basic stock ride, no upgrades or anything for now. I see enough suggestions in other forums, but most of which are upgrades. I'm literally after cost and purpose, that's it for now.[/QUOTE ] nice find!seems like everytime i get a thirdgen that was stored in a barn i end up tearing the complete interior and dash out of the car because of mice issues hopefully u won't have that problem with ur iroc lol. i like kyb struts and shocks and moog suspension parts.
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Looks GREAT! For the ride, I used KYB Excel-G's but I think they are too soft. I've heard Koni yellows are good, Bilstein is probably a good replacement but I have heard nothing. I am thining about upgrading to the KYB Gas Adjusts as my Excel-G's are too soft for the stock springs.
Thanks man! The KYB's seem to be good for the money. The koni's and Bilstein's are quite a bit more and I think performance wise, they're a bit more than I need right now. Just trying to get the car to a solid daily driver status without blowing the budget. I still have my GTA that likes to eat up my paychecks for breakfast. In terms of tie rods and ball joints and stuff, I've heard a lot of mixed reviews regarding fitment on our cars with the Moog and Delco stuff. Do you have any experience with either?
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On the assumption that this thing needs a full suspension overhaul, what parts do you guys recommend? I'm looking for a basic stock ride, no upgrades or anything for now. I see enough suggestions in other forums, but most of which are upgrades. I'm literally after cost and purpose, that's it for now.[/QUOTE ] nice find!seems like everytime i get a thirdgen that was stored in a barn i end up tearing the complete interior and dash out of the car because of mice issues hopefully u won't have that problem with ur iroc lol. i like kyb struts and shocks and moog suspension parts.
I looked pretty closely for any signs of those little 4 legged bastards but didn't see anything, so I'm hoping we're in the clear. You've never had any issues with Moog fitment?
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Thanks man! , I've heard a lot of mixed reviews regarding fitment on our cars with the Moog and Delco stuff. Do you have any experience with either?
The ACDelco Parts Are The Same Parts You Would Get If You Bought Them From Your Local GM Dealer,So There Should Be No Problem With Fitment.
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Awesome! I absolutely love the black and gold ones!
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Nice find, love the color combo and it’s a l98. Also I went with the kyb excel g all around on my GTA and they ride pretty good, much improved over the worn out factory parts. Also replaced strut mounts with kyb. Set up is good for summer daily driver duty.

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I'm not familiar w/ KYB Excel G, but I put KYB "Gas-A-Justs" on my friends 73 Corvette and the rear of my 1988 Lincoln Mark VII LSC. They were much too stiff and we both took them off. I got a warranty exchange, from KYB to the KYB GR2's , which are nice. In fact, I put 100,000 miles on them(on the Lincoln) and KYB authorized a lifetime warranty exchange, for new GR2's ! . (Said warranty has since been downgraded, somewhat)

On my 1979 Trans Am SE ("Bandit) I put 4 Monroe Reflex shocks, I am very pleased w/ them, firm enough, but comfortable on our pot-holed roads.

My favorite shocks, of the hundreds I have sold and had had installed, Edlebrock IAS (Inertia Active Suspension) are discontinued. They are the ONLY non-electronic shock capable of determining the difference between a ROAD INPUT (bump, pothole) and a body input (weight transfer on turns or braking) . I have them on 1 of my 2, 1996 Impala SS's and my 2000 Ford Excursion 4x4 diesel SUV. Complient on impact, firm on weight transfer. Too bad they are gone.

I was a "Stocking Dealer" for Moog for about 9 years. Excellent quality and proper fit! My first choice. IMO, DON"T be sold on Poly-Whatever control arm bushings, nothing but problems. They are fine for Anti_Sway Bar END LINKS, however. (unless you want old school, Cadillac/Lincoln experience).
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Thanks man! The KYB's seem to be good for the money. The koni's and Bilstein's are quite a bit more and I think performance wise, they're a bit more than I need right now. Just trying to get the car to a solid daily driver status without blowing the budget. I still have my GTA that likes to eat up my paychecks for breakfast. In terms of tie rods and ball joints and stuff, I've heard a lot of mixed reviews regarding fitment on our cars with the Moog and Delco stuff. Do you have any experience with either?
i got a couple projects that r doing the same to me right now so i can relate with u on that lol and i have used moog and not had any problems.
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Scored a set of almost new Firestone street tires for $80 last night from a guy who took them off his Iroc. Tread is at least 80%, and they don't even have any cracking. Win. Car is going to be pulled out of it's nest tonight and brought to my work so I can get started on getting it cleaned up and running. I'll post up pics as soon as I can
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For the transmission experts, the previous owner said that he parked the car originally because the transmission wouldn't shift past second. I haven't driven it obviously so I can't confirm that, but if that is the case, any ideas as to what the issue could be? I've been trying to find another trans to put in it, but if it doesn't need a full rebuild then I'd much rather keep the original
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Cool car.. awesome color combo..

good luck with it!

Too bad about the transmission, but it probably wouldn’t need a full rebuild. A transmission shop would probably charge pretty close to what a used one would go for though..

For suspension and front end from what I’ve heard you can get performance upgrades pretty cheap for these cars, but I hear you about trying not to put too much into the car just to get it road worthy for now..

Look forward to seeing more of it!
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Cool car.. awesome color combo..

good luck with it!

Too bad about the transmission, but it probably wouldn’t need a full rebuild. A transmission shop would probably charge pretty close to what a used one would go for though..

For suspension and front end from what I’ve heard you can get performance upgrades pretty cheap for these cars, but I hear you about trying not to put too much into the car just to get it road worthy for now..

Look forward to seeing more of it!
Thanks! This colour combo has always been my favourite for Camaro's, so it's fluke that this one happens to have it. As for suspension, I'd love to go nuts with it, but I'm leaving that for the GTA. Who knows though, once I get the car out and running it may win my heart and become the #1
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I think it's going to be pretty when you clean it up, hard to beat a black IROC.
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Hey hey!! Congrats Man! Nice pickup- I hope to see it this summer.
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For the transmission experts, the previous owner said that he parked the car originally because the transmission wouldn't shift past second. I haven't driven it obviously so I can't confirm that, but if that is the case, any ideas as to what the issue could be? I've been trying to find another trans to put in it, but if it doesn't need a full rebuild then I'd much rather keep the original
Try adjusting the kick down cable. Ya never know... He said it wouldn't shift past second......he didnt say when it shifts to third it's like neutral, or slipping, etc.

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Hauled the car out last night and I have to say I'm pretty happy. There was a bra on the nose and underneath it looks like hell, so I'll need a nose. Otherwise I'm in love. The driver door closes as smoothly as it did when it came out of the factory!

Today's issue is that it cranks as it should, pump is working, and at the first crank the car will start instantly but immediately shut off, and only sputter for the next cranks. I'm at work and though the car's here, I don't have much time to mess with it. I'd like to pull any codes though, so can someone confirm that I can pull them the same way as my 91? With the paperclip trick?
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[QUOTE=RKeats;6295938]Hauled the car out last night and I have to say I'm pretty happy. There was a bra on the nose and underneath it looks like hell, so I'll need a nose. Otherwise I'm in love. The driver door closes as smoothly as it did when it came out of the factory!

Today's issue is that it cranks as it should, pump is working, and at the first crank the car will start instantly but immediately shut off, and only sputter for the next cranks. I'm at work and though the car's here, I don't have much time to mess with it. I'd like to pull any codes though, so can someone confirm that I can pull them the same way as my 91? With the paperclip trick?[/QUOTE

I do think you can do the paper clip trick as the operations of the ECM should be the same. I think the engine trans combo is what make the difference in the ECMs. I would look into the injectors for this issue, the car has sat an awful long time and if ethanol fuel was used there is a better chance than not those injectors are clogged. It does not take long for this to happen.

For your suspension, I too have used KYB with great satisfaction. They have a few different models to fit any budget. I used the AGX series. I purchased AC Delco from rock auto for my front end parts with no fitment issue at all. I have great luck with moog also. I did just buy new trailing arms and panhard bar as those parts were not to much more than quality urethane bushings.
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Hauled the car out last night and I have to say I'm pretty happy. There was a bra on the nose and underneath it looks like hell, so I'll need a nose. Otherwise I'm in love. The driver door closes as smoothly as it did when it came out of the factory!

Today's issue is that it cranks as it should, pump is working, and at the first crank the car will start instantly but immediately shut off, and only sputter for the next cranks. I'm at work and though the car's here, I don't have much time to mess with it. I'd like to pull any codes though, so can someone confirm that I can pull them the same way as my 91? With the paperclip trick?[/QUOTE

I do think you can do the paper clip trick as the operations of the ECM should be the same. I think the engine trans combo is what make the difference in the ECMs. I would look into the injectors for this issue, the car has sat an awful long time and if ethanol fuel was used there is a better chance than not those injectors are clogged. It does not take long for this to happen.

For your suspension, I too have used KYB with great satisfaction. They have a few different models to fit any budget. I used the AGX series. I purchased AC Delco from rock auto for my front end parts with no fitment issue at all. I have great luck with moog also. I did just buy new trailing arms and panhard bar as those parts were not to much more than quality urethane bushings.
Just got it to fire up a few minutes ago. Nothing quite like hearing a 350 come to life for the first time in years! Runs kind of like garbage though as I expected. I'm going to pull the codes as the CEL is on, and I suspect it has some vacuum leaks and dead sensors floating around.
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Pulled the codes and got 15 and 33. MAF and coolant temp sensor. Ordered a temp sensor, and have a spare MAF that I can try out in the car, and those 2 should resolve the rough idle. Got a set of Firestone's ready to go on the car, and the replacement transmission and cat back exhaust will be here Saturday morning. Moving along pretty nicely! Today's last task will be trying to re-attach the horn button.
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Replaced the MAF and temp sensor and now the car starts at the first flick of the key, and runs very well. I'm beyond happy. No weird noises, no manifold leaks, no fluid leaks. Still has a fair bit of the old gas in it, and the oil still needs to be changed, but those are going to be taken care of when the transmission and exhaust go in today. Including tires, rebuilt transmission, catback exhaust with 40 series muffler and tips, and of course the car, I'm only 2100 (1550USD) in to the car, so I think I'm in good shape
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I'm picking up a nose from a 92 Z28. I know the GFX are different, but is the nose itself identical to the 85-89 ones in terms of mounting and shape? Do the 91-92 GFX have the same mounting holes, or will I need to drill new ones?
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I don't think anyone's following along here but hey at least it's a place for me to share my milestones. I'm still waiting for my shop to free up some time to get the trans and exhaust in my car, but today I at least got to move it around. I noticed the trans fluid level was pretty low so I topped it up to see what would happen. Sure enough the car goes in to first, but that seems to be about it. It'll go in to reverse and kinda roll backwards, but any flick of the gas is just a neutral. Gave me just enough sauce to drive it around the parking lot though and that was pretty cool! Brakes and everything feel surprisingly good, but we'll see what happens when the car can get up to road speed.
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Your making progress, keep up the good work. It’s always great when one of these cars gets put back on the road.
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Your making progress, keep up the good work. It’s always great when one of these cars gets put back on the road.
Thank you! I think I'm more excited to wash it than I am to drive it haha. It looks like hell because it's been in the garage for so long. Doesn't help that the birds are hammering it in its current parking spot
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