ok i know this is a thirdgen board, but people are always more helpful on here than any other board i visit.. on my 4th gen, 3.4 5 speed, mods in signature. It has 110,000 miles on the motor. What all do i need to do to run a 100 shot of nitrous? And with a 100 shot do you think i'll be in the 13's with my mods?

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1989 307 RS, soon to be 350.
1995 Red T-Top Camaro, 3.73 gear, F.I.P.K. K&N,Flomaster Cat-Back, Gutted Cat...Killer Stereo (Cerwin Vega and Sony Xplode)
1998 Ford Ranger 3.0 Cold air intake and flowmaster exhaust.

 

honestly, the best thing you can do to run a 100 shot of NOS is NOT TO DO IT!!! You will regret it later.

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Alex A. (aka chevyboy)
1992 Z-28 L98/1LE. Heritage Edition. SLP runners, gutted cats, SLP 3" cat-back & muffler. 3" flo-tech cut-out, SLP TB foil, 3.23 posi rear

 

ok well..first off...NOS is a company and i'm gonna run a 100 shot of n2o and it will be the Nitrous Express 75-125 adjustable kit. why not run just a 100 shot? i won't regret it, it's not my daily driver. If a 4 banger Dodge neon motor can take a 400 shot and still have 10 runs and beat a viper, i know my engine can take a 100 shot after i rebuild it. It could probably take it now and have no problems. you've just probably heard horror stories about nitrous and are scared of it. Just think though, if it were *so* bad, then nobody would use it. You just have to be smart about it....
So, what engine work do i need to do? and will it put me in the 13's with my mods?

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1989 307 RS, soon to be 350.
1995 Red T-Top Camaro, 3.73 gear, F.I.P.K. K&N,Flomaster Cat-Back, Gutted Cat...Very soon, Centerforce clutch and 100 shot of Nitrous
1998 Ford Ranger 3.0 Cold air intake and flowmaster exhaust.

 

youre absolutely right, people hear horror stories about nitrous and automatically think that its some kind of which craft black magic. well on the contrary my 305 has gone through over 25 bottles of nitrous at a 150 shot and is running like brand new. the fact of the matter is, just like anything else, if you know how to use it, respect it, and don't abuse it youll be doing just fine. It seems like every time someone blows a motor on nitrous everyone makes a big deal out of it. Whereas when someone loads too much boost from a blower and damages something no one really cares. When someone damages their motor running high compression it seems to be ignored. Nitrous is just as relaible as any other power adder, the only reason people seem to be against it, is because all a greedy individual has to do is change the jets to get more power and thus blow their motor up.

To get on the technical side, I did nothing to prep the motor for nitrous except a complete tune up, cap, rotor, wires, oil, coolant, thermostat, etc. I didn't even pull any timing, its still stock at 6 degrees of advance. My cars got a TPI 305 with 70,000 miles on it, and it still runs like its brand new, with several bottles of nitrous gone through it.

 

btw l ran a 13.2 on nitrous with a 305 TPI, runners, a 3.73 ring and pinion, and exhaust system, with a 150 HP shot of juice. i ran it on toyo proxes street tires too. theyre crappy tires, so l think you should be able to hit 12's

 

**thanks for telling me about what I heard** LMAO @ u. This is my 3rd car on spray and I've been tinkering w/ nitrous for a while now. Not to mention over 50 custom installs in my career. And the safety measures you speak of are not going to prevent your motor from destruction too much longer. Anyways, now I've reconsiderd helping you.

 

lol you've reconsidered helping me? well if your help is what you posted about me not running it, then keep your help to yourself. and btw, if you've been "tinkering" with nitrous that long and bad stuff keeps happening to the motors you use it on, then i probably don't need your help, i'll talk to people like mousecamaro who don't discourage the use but have successful use.

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1989 307 RS, soon to be 350.
1995 Red T-Top Camaro, 3.73 gear, F.I.P.K. K&N,Flomaster Cat-Back, Gutted Cat...Very soon, Centerforce clutch and 100 shot of Nitrous
1998 Ford Ranger 3.0 Cold air intake and flowmaster exhaust.

 

umm, "bad stuff" has never happened to my engines or any of my customers(thank *** ) b/c I won't install a system on a motor that i believe won't handle it. Anyway, good luck w/ your kit.

 

ok so do you think my motor will handle a 100 shot? why or why not?

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1989 307 RS, soon to be 350.
1995 Red T-Top Camaro, 3.73 gear, F.I.P.K. K&N,Flomaster Cat-Back, Gutted Cat...Very soon, Centerforce clutch and 100 shot of Nitrous
1998 Ford Ranger 3.0 Cold air intake and flowmaster exhaust.

 

100 shot is sort of a bunch for a 3.4 but I would never tell anyone not to run n20. Well, I bet your car makes mid 15s right now but i would expect somewhere in the low 14's.

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1991 Firebird
350 L98 (was a 305 TBI),T-5,Edelbrock TES and cat back,Accel manifold
NOS,subframes,jegster torque arm,MSD Digital 6
AFPR,Lakewood lcas
Hurst linelock,SLP cam (206 212 .480 .486),relocated battery,cold air,Hypertech chip,centerforce df,clutch
poly bushings and mounts
AFR 190s
Harland sharp 1.5 rockers
autopower rollbar

12.33 @ 114.83 juiced uncorrected

13.510 @ 102 non juiced uncorrected

 

So what kind of engine (in your oppinion) would take a 100 to 150 shot of nitrous? and not get blown to junk.

 

Hey Uno... as you like to point out stuff (it's not NOS...): It is NO2 not N2O

I would suggest starting off on the low end and working up. You said you were looking at a 75-125 adjustable kit... start with 75 and go up. I seriously doubt a 75HP shot will be more than a 3.4 can handle.

I look at it this way (which is probably wrong, but oh well), a 100 shot on a 3.4L engine is about equivalent to adding a 175HP shot to a 350. Can it be done... yes, but you need to consider plugs and timing and maybe even a window switch for safety. And as far as things like the rods/crank/piston being able to handle the sudden power, I don't know... keep us posted how it works!

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1984 z28 w/ a 357 cu in. monster engine which is looking like the posterchild for Edelbrock with the exception of the Holley 750vac... all the suspension stuff... 9-bolt posi disk is in...

-=ICON Motorsports=-

 

i am pretty sure last year in chemistry we made n2o nitrous oxide whereas no2 would be nitrogen dioxide...but anyways
lets not argue about that, i just think it's funny how most people think NOS (nitro-oxide-sulfate? LOL j/k) is a chemical because that's the only types of nitrous they've ever seen or have watched F&F too many times. I'm not flaming chevy boy, i just got kinda ticked when he told me not to run it but obviously he has some experience with nitrous so it's cool. he wasn't just talking outta his head
.......SO you think my engine can take a 75 shot the way it is? that's cool....here are my guesses as to what i need to do to prep my engine for more nitrous.
Pistons (flat top aluminum???) new cam,bigger injetors, bigger fuel pump,port and polish my heads,new plugs and wires, and an msd ignition box(maybe the one with the controller on it?) also i'm getting my ecu reprogrammed by superchips. hopefully with all that, i should be able to run a 100 shot of nitrous :-)

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1989 307 RS, soon to be 350.
1995 Red T-Top Camaro, 3.73 gear, F.I.P.K. K&N,Flomaster Cat-Back, Gutted Cat...Very soon, Centerforce clutch and 100 shot of Nitrous
1998 Ford Ranger 3.0 Cold air intake and flowmaster exhaust.

 

It's N20.

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1989 IROC-Z 5.7L
NOS 5151 150HP kit
ProBuilt 700R4, PI Vigilante 2800 stall lockup
Baer Brakes 12" Sport System

 

i believe the proper naming of N20 would be dinitrogen monoxide, where as No2, would be considered Nitrogen dioxide.

just my .02.

BTW, if im wrong, its not my fault, its my my Advanced Chemesty professors'.

Eric

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My 1986 Z2814.59@95.6

GM350, T-5, 3.23's, lots of go fast goodies, 4th gen Firebird interior etc...
85 IROC w/ 1364 miles! no times yet, just got it to start.

You'll always find what you've lost in the last place you look

R.I.P Dale Earnhardt

Moderator at: www.generation-3.com

 

If your going to get new pistons and plan on juicing it then I would go with forged pistons. They can handle a little more abuse if you a have a lean cylinder. My $.02

 

The following tips will help ensure long engine life + more usable power when using n2o (or maybe it should be w2f...way 2 fast ).


If posible use forged pistons.
Round off the sharp edges especially around the valve reliefs.
Polish the tops or better yet ceramic coat the tops.

Deck the block to tighten up the quench area.

Smooth and debur the combustion chambers. Polish them or ceramic coat them.

Use colder spark plugs and run less timing advance while juicing.

Use a fuel pressure safety switch.

Use an RPM activated or window switch so the nitrous will not be engaged under 3000 RPM. Do not over rev the engine.

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Tracy /AKA IROCKZ4me
'86 IROC-Z Camaro
"Cogito ergo zoom"

• 355 cid
• AFR heads
• Arizona Speed & Marine hydraulic roller cam w/ AFR hydra-rev kit
• modified SLP runners
• TRW forged pistons/ceramic coated
• fully balanced
• Edelbrock headers/ceramic coated
• SLP cat-back
• Paxton supercharger
• Nitrous Express nitrous oxide

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Posted by ZupmanZ28
"BTW, if im wrong, its not my fault, its my my Advanced Chemesty professors'.
Eric"

What about your advanced spelling professors?

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88 Firebird, 2.8, auto
*K&N air filter
*Flowmaster complete cat-back exhaust system

88 GTA Trans AM, 5.7, auto
*K&N air filter
*New MAF
(Future Mods.)
-JET chip stage II
-180 thermo.
-exhaust
-cold air induction
-intake runners
-cam?

 

i have an 83 transam with 140,000 miles on it and i was wondering about runnin a 75 to 100 juice shot yes? no? maybe? the engine runs strong

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CHRIS
1983 firebird transam
edelbrock performer rpm intake 360*k&n intake 160 theroostat gitting trans raced up and lots and lots of plans 4 the future

 

Guess this is beating a dead horse, but I would put [lots of] money on N20 as being Nitrous oxide and N02 as Nitrogen dioxide... the "ous" ending indicates two Nitrogens... I remember this specifically, because I was one of the only people to see the trick question on a test. Yes it could also be called dinitrogen monoxide, but nobody calls it that.

If I'm wrong then my proffessor has been teaching it wrong for 30+ years.

 

In the old naming scheme:

NO = Nitric oxide
N2O = Nitrous oxide
NO2 = Nitrogen peroxide