Could this be turned down to say, 15sec? It's very frustrating when you just mistype something.

thanks!

M.

 

The reason why there is a limit, is because searching puts a load on the server, especially multiple searches, and even more so on forums this large and active. I do not believe lowering it down to 15 seconds would get approval from the server administrators. I cannot think of any large forum I frequent that doesn't have atleast a 30 second wait period. It might be lowered, but I do not believe down to 15 seconds.

 

ya its kinda a pissoff, cuz usually i do a search and im wrong, and after 5 mins of waiting to ask 4 different search peramaters, i give up and post a new thread, and info is repeated. is it really worth it in the long run, cuz now ive taken up more space by posting an already posted thread, and other ppl reply, suddenly its out of control. perhaps saving more room would be able to allow ppl to delete thier threads or posts if they posted incorrectly or accidently in the wrong forum.

PS: that was hypothetical, i dont do that but im sure everybody else that says "ive searched but nothing comes up" has done it.

perhaps its time to look at the big picture and make some changes to free up bandwidth. or are you guys stuck in the past and are gonna be stubborn about it?

 

I have to ask what you're talking about with such an assumption that TGO is "stuck in the past"? In what regard? How is bandwidth being tied up? How are we not looking at the big picture?

To my knowledge, we don't need more "room" (hard disk space for database nor bandwidth). There is not a good enough reason to allow members to delete their own post, and there hasn't been for the past several years that this policy has been around. If you post incorrectly, you can inform a moderator or administrator and it will be taken care of. This has been addressed before.

I can only suggest that if you make so many mistakes with the search engine, that you take a bit more time and care when typing in your search criteria. I admit that the 60 second search time out could use lowering, but to suggest that we are stuck in the past, or don't have the bandwidth, is not correct.

 

The old board had a forty-five second wait, sixty is really not so big a deal as to make a big difference.

Also keep in mind JT that many people who post have no idea as to the costs of bandwidth, server load and such, I'd let such comments just blow by. Either that, or they work for larger companies and have no idea of the limited resources of an organization such as this, as it is no issue to them.

 

the problem with the 60 sec wait is if your search returns 0 items it still makes you wait the 60 seconds to research with new parameters.

 

Using the search feature uses a lot of bandwith. If the search time was lowered to something very low like 15 seconds, this would put a lot more stress on the server. It could very well cause TGO to be slow. Then people would be complaining about how slow TGO is.

 

It does put more of a load on the server via mysql, which a board this size, already is "busy" with other board functions.

I couldn't recall the previous search restriction time limit, which was 45 seconds as stated. As IrocThe5.7 stated, there has to be a balance maintained, otherwise search jobs could start to slow down the entire forums, which would lead to more logged complaints because it would impact a larger percentage of people who simply browse the forums or post. TGO is a big board, with quite a bit of activity, something that may not be so understandable.

Are you sure about that? According to Jason, this should not be the case:
https://www.thirdgen.org/server-maintenance-09-28-2006
I admit I haven't looked into it at the moment, but will to see if this is a valid issue.

 

I can say he is 100% right. Coming from somebody who uses search every day, it was fixed for a little while and didn't make you wait after getting no results, but the last month or two its gone back to making you wait even if no results were found. Incredibly frustrating...many times I've just closed TGO and walked back out to my car because of this to figure it out on my own, effectively making the search function useless.

Sure, many forums have search wait time, but I would think that TGO, being a site that prides itself on the ammount of well maintained archived information it has, would have a flawless, fluid search function with which to take full advantage of this wealth of information. Searching should be the primary focus of this site, it's how we thirdgen owners access our information. Something has to change.

 

Thanks for the information. The issue will be reviewed and checked to see if we possibly can lower some of the restrictions. However, please understand that all restrictions cannot be removed and that there has to be a time limit to ensure that the searches don't impact the majority of users/viewers who browse and post on the forums.

 

As one who's run a BB myself, I have to say its all dependent on the software that TGO uses, and I'm pretty sure they're using the stock vB search. You'd probably have better luck bugging the guys who write vBulletin for a better search feature. These guys at TGO just use it.