Does anyone thing its possible to widen the front A arms to move the spindle and brakes further out to eliminate the need for spacers by runnng wider wheels. if possible then the outer tie rods will also need to move further outward and maybe just getting a longer adjusting sleeve will fix that. Is this possible guys or is it not worth it. I really want to run a 9- 9.5" wide wheel up front with a spacer or the need to buy $4000 custom wheels. I also have the C5 brake upgrade going on if that matters. Would it be easier to modify an aftermarket set or arms? Im lookng for 1.5" at the most.

 

something like this

 

I have no clue what you are saying. I dont understand. The way I see it, the entire wheel assembly is being moved out 1.5". if everything moves togheter then how will it cause the problems you are referring too. Does it have something to do with the location of the strut?

 

Also note, you would probably run into clearance issues with the tie rods. You would also need a diffrent sway bar, and tie rods.

 

I am confused. If you move the whole assemble out, How does this effect clearence issues with the wheel?

Everything would still be the same spacing relative to where it was before, except the car would have a wider track width. And the relation of the wheel to the fender would be different.

Where are you trying to gain clearence?

I run 17 x 9.5 with 5.5 backspacing now with no issues.

 

I think doing this could possibly limit your alignment specs options. Depending on the ride height, you might not be able to adjust camber as much as you want on the negative side. It'll also change the front geometry (not sure if for the better or worse). On my 89 IROC-Z I have the car lowered quite a bit and max negative camber I'm very close to having contact between the strut rod and the strut tower itself, below the mount. The front struts usually have a dust boot that fits up into the strut mount area, on my car I didnt have enough room to run a dust boot and get a somewhat agressive alignment (which is still a joke with our cars). So it would depend, if the car isn't lowered that much and you dont care about having negative camber (which is more for track use than street use) then it might not be a problem. To be honest it seems like a round about way of solving a wrong backspacing/offset issue. The ammount of custom work needed compared to already made spacers/adapters, big time/cost difference.

Technically, the spacers/adapters are not required to run wide wheels, its to fix the backspacing/offset issue. But I understand what you mean as its not easy to find cheap bolt on 9.5's for the front. Most either require a spacer because they're 4th gen f-body or corvette spec, or its custom spec backspacing/offset billet wheels. Still, there are other options out there, wide and made for our cars. Just depends on if you like the style or not. ROH and Ronal come to mind. The C5 front conversion will move the front track out a little bit but not as much as you're looking for. Hope that helped!

 

Would tip strut at wrong angle, causing serious negative camber.
Need longer tie rods
need wider swaybar.
The rim will still hit the strut.
When you turn, the tie rods would still hit the inside of the rim.
When you turn, the inside of the rim would hit the a-arm.


You actually need a spindle that moves the whole brake assy outward, while still leaving all the other stuff in same position.

IMO, best bet would be custom made break rotor/hub... If you dont want to run spacers or custom rims.

 

ok guys I guess Iwill scratch that idea. Thanks for the tips though. I also would like to know why a lot of info is missing here. Thunderfest wrote a lot of stuff and the last post he wrote he said he was going to draw me a desription of what he was talking about. all well, I guess I will look for a wheel that fits without spacers. my main reason for asking this question is because of my 4th gen rear end. I installed it to eliminate the spacers on the rear but now I have them on the fornt and my C5 brakes are not even noticable. if I get new wheels that fit right in the front then the BS will be different for the rear and I will actualy end up having more lip on the front wheels then the back and that will look like crap. I guess Ihave to swap back to a 3rd gen rear and get all new wheels to get what I want.

 

? - what did happen to all the other posts? my whole post is gone....

here's what she'll look like w/ 3rdgen front offset and 4thgen rear:

 

is it me or do the front wheels look like they have a deeper lip then the back?

 

is there a scribbles out there somewhere. There must have been a post made by that name cuz I got an email notice and it had that name as a responder to the this tread. Whoever is responsible for the crap needs to knock it off or let us members know what is going on here.

 

yea i was just making fun of this post.. i thought it was funny that things seem to be disapering. I had absolutley nothing useful or relevent to include on this topic... It is funny though, it is the bremuta triangle of posts. Seems funny that things keep geting deleted rather than just locking the thread. seems like a lot of work. agian absoluteley nothing useful... but it was cool seeing my name.

 

sick car by the way...

 

...and now we know why stuff got deleted. - If you don't have anything useful to say, don't say anything.

- yes, the fronts are deeper than the rear. As I said, 3rdgen front offset, 4thgen rear. 17x8 front, 17x11 rear.

 

thats exactly why I dont want my 4th gen rear anymore. Nothing against your car but I just have no love for a wheel that has more lip on the front then the back...just like the GTA wheels. Too bad there wasnt a conversion kitout there that brought the wheel assembly outward a little bit. we would have so much more wheels choices to pick from.