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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 07:27 AM
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M3 fast!!!!

Has anyone ran aginst M3 e36 -96 and up!!!!
I did but i lost by 2 carlengths, fast cars 321hp but my car is stock
Soon it will be moded
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 07:42 AM
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closest i raced is a newer M roadster on the highway. Tied him basically, but that was back in the day with the 350. I'll have a lot bigger engine in a few weeks, but wont be racing anymore. only at the track, cant afford to get caught.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 09:30 AM
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Closest i've seen is in my friends formula, we ran a 3.0 z3 up to 110 and only lost by 1 carlength.. He didn't have a passenger and I think maybe he got a better launch...
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 02:02 PM
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z3s my buddy said are 15 secs cars but i doubt they are that slow...somewhere in the 14s...and i got a vid of a m3 running a 13.8
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 02:07 PM
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I raced one of the M roadsters a while back when my car was running low 13's. He gave me more of a run that I thought he would.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 02:21 PM
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Guy I know bought a new M3, he ran some of our friends with new SS' and WS6s that M3 can get off the line, but the new ones have a problem, they spin bearings in the rods. Fairly common problem if they see any performance driving, since they have a black box the tech at BMW can find out the way you've been driving and can lead to your waranty being voided. Build an awesome car but let some thing as major as that get away from you
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 02:24 PM
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Actually, in 1996 the M3 got the 3.2L engine, up from 3.0L in previous years. Bhp was rated at 240. The current iteration of the M3 puts out 333 bhp, and is mated to a six-speed manual. 60 mph arrives in 5.2 sec., though I have no idea what they run in the quarter. Awesome cars.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 03:37 PM
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The before -96 m3 3.0 has 286hp 0-60 in 5.8 and Q in 13.95
-96 and up 3.2 has 321hp 0-60 in 5.3 and Q in 13.75
New m3 343hp 0-60 in 5.0 and Q in 13.45
These are very usual cars here in sweden..........
Camaro and Pontiac is unusual........

I have problems with those cars with my almost stock 350
hope that headers +catback, airfilter, ported plenum, chip and afpr will get me in the 13`s
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 03:58 PM
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i drove my friends 98 M3 twice. that car is fast. all he had done was K&N intake and Borla exhaust. it definately was a low 14 sec car if not faster....
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 04:14 PM
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Originally posted by DOOSKI
The before -96 m3 3.0 has 286hp 0-60 in 5.8 and Q in 13.95
-96 and up 3.2 has 321hp 0-60 in 5.3 and Q in 13.75
New m3 343hp 0-60 in 5.0 and Q in 13.45
These are very usual cars here in sweden..........
Camaro and Pontiac is unusual........

I have problems with those cars with my almost stock 350
hope that headers +catback, airfilter, ported plenum, chip and afpr will get me in the 13`s
The U.S.-spec cars are detuned, '94-'96 had 240 horses. In '96 the 3.2L engined debuted. HP was unchanged, but the torque curve was flatter, until the 333-horse version found it's way to this side of the lake. Damn Germans. Always watering down the cars they send Stateside.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 04:44 PM
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i actually raced one on the highway. he has at least a couple passengers. i don't know what year it was. anyway, he got a better launch than me, and it was pretty even up until 90 he had me by probably a car. i didn't get to talk to the kid or anything, he was just going really fast on the road going to the highway, so i caught up to him and then we got next to each other at a light and we both nodded so he was definately racing. whether or not he was at full throttle i have no idea, but after i launched (i didn't floor it right away, i've spun the tires a few times and tires are expensive for a poor college kid) i had the pedal on the floor the whole time. but when i floored it, it was pretty even almost the whole time. i was surprised because usually when i floor it i can take most cars pretty quickly, but then again, the m3 is a hell of a car
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 06:20 PM
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Originally posted by 90Iroc-Zee
z3s my buddy said are 15 secs cars but i doubt they are that slow...somewhere in the 14s...and i got a vid of a m3 running a 13.8

I believe you are thinking of the 2.5 z3's.. They are in the 15.2's.. the 3.0's are a good 40 hp more and are probly about a mid 14 car...
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 06:48 PM
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Damn M3s, sweet cars, but nowadays i think u need a 12 sec car just to stay ahead of the current auto industry. U know this aint how it used to be back in the late 80s and early 90s where our 3rd gens kicked major *** stock, and owned the street.

Now we gotta worry about f*ckin grocery cars beating us, and what not, u know what i mean, it kinda ticks me off, and u know thats one motivation why i wanna mod.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 08:04 PM
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M3's...they're not much, we can easily dust them here up north, but most of the Thirdgen guys i know are from from stock.
I just love the look on the one little asian guys face when a thirdgen smokes his brand new $60000 car.
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Old Sep 5, 2002 | 09:41 PM
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E36 M3's are probably good for low-mid 14's STOCK. Don't forget to factor in the good driver.

A couple years ago, I was basically dead even with an E36 M3 convertible on the highway with my old Sentra SE-R (best of 14.56 at the drag strip).
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 07:55 AM
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The older style M3s had 240hp stock - typically good for a 14.2-14.4 with a manual - autos were at least 1/2 second slower.

The new ones are 333hp (or something like that) and run 13.0-13.5, not bad at all - but for a base of $57k, not all that great. But since they are more or less optimized from the factory, there isn't going to be a 11 second bolt-on M3, so maybe high 12's is about as fast as there gonna go.

I don't think a near stock L98 would have any problem with an older M3, but the new ones are about 1 second quicker (unfortunately). I would hang my head in shame if a decent 350 couldn't beat a new M3 by a few cars, especially since we have one hell of an aftermarket.

I don't know about the "grocery getters" beating the faster stock third gens - even a new 6 speed Maxima runs 14.6 or so with 260hp, not too many affordable cars are quicker than that for 2002.
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 11:02 AM
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Why do the US m3 e36 only have 240hp instead of the real 321hp???????? Then they are only high 14 low 15 sec cars in us
because in europe they are defenetly high 13 stock.....
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 11:55 AM
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i think gm should make it so that the new camaros and firebirds can keep up with the m3s andjust be a few ticks away froma corvette. and definatley be able to walk a saleen or a cobra
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 08:59 PM
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Well if there never was a car called a Corvette, then we would get full previleges from GM, till then, there pride and joy is the Vette, and they use there remaining effort on F-bodies.
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 09:51 PM
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Re: M3 fast!!!!

Originally posted by DOOSKI
Has anyone ran aginst M3 e36 -96 and up!!!!
I did but i lost by 2 carlengths, fast cars 321hp but my car is stock
Soon it will be moded
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Old Sep 6, 2002 | 10:31 PM
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Originally posted by GTATransAM
Well if there never was a car called a Corvette, then we would get full previleges from GM, till then, there pride and joy is the Vette, and they use there remaining effort on F-bodies.
Exactly. The brass at GM will never allow an F-body to tread upon the Corvette's market. It is GM's performance flagship. That's why we have a disadvantage against the Mustang. While Ford could, in theory, make a Mustang with an outrageous amount of horsepower (like, say, oh, the '03 Cobra), if it exceeded the performance of the 'Vette, GM would not produce an equivalent F-body. (And if GM lets a ponycar get the upper hand on the 'Vette, then some serious moving and shaking needs to happen at GM.)
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 02:50 AM
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M3's

The brand new M3 will run the quarter in the very high 12's with a good driver, 13 flat easily.....
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 04:15 AM
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Even those new Toyota WRXs are running mid-14s anymore.

A lot of grocery getters ARE getting faster
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 02:10 PM
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Originally posted by Sitting Bull
Even those new Toyota WRXs are running mid-14s anymore.
Do you mean the Subaru Impreza WRX?

Originally posted by Sitting Bull
A lot of grocery getters ARE getting faster
Can anyone say "Avant"?
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Old Sep 7, 2002 | 02:57 PM
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I would love to own one of the new BMW M3

they look sweet

nice and fast

and even handle fairly well


plus they are still kinda a lux car all in one
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Old Sep 10, 2002 | 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by DOOSKI
Has anyone ran aginst M3 e36 -96 and up!!!!
Yes. I race a 2002 E46 M3 about 4 weeks ago. I was in my '87 GN, with the turbo set on "kill" (22psi - about the max for the stock turbo), and a tank of 100 octane to make sure my head gaskets stayed intact.

Well, I smoked him like he was in reverse. We went from a stop, and I blew him away off the line and continue to pull away. Must have had at least 8 car lengths on him before I shut it down.

Originally posted by Ragnarok_Tyr
Do you mean the Subaru Impreza WRX?
Subaru...Toyoter...same difference.
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Old Sep 12, 2002 | 01:51 AM
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I wasted an '03 M3 in July. I had him and I wasn't even at WOT. Cruz'N Bruz'R was with me. I don't think anyone short of John Force would be capable of dropping one into the 12's.
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