This guy has been wanting to race me for a while. I think I've got what I need to beat him. He has a 1996 Camaro w/ the 3.4 engine. The only mod he has done is a Flowmaster muffler. I've got a 1985 Z28 w/LG69 305HO, Holley 600 carb, no egr, no smog, MSD distributor, dynomax muffler, 1" carb spacer. Will I have any problems?

 

should be close but I feel confident you will eventually pull on him. They got close to if not 200hp to your 190 stock. With your mods i guess 210-220 so at a bit lighter weight you should win if you run good, launch good.

 

i have seen lg4 ,lb9,l69 never have i seen a lg69. i take it u have a lg4

 

You will take him the 3.4 only have 170 hp and around 21-220 tq

 

sorry 210-220 tq

 

Just for the record, I have the 305 high output engine(code G). At least that's what my VIN tells me. It came stock with the dual snorkle air cleaner, which I was told was only included in the L69 engine.

 

is this a double post. also u should win if u have a man and he has a auto i won and i was going against a 96 v6 and mine is a 84 z l69 won by 1.5 cars

 

u have a stock L69 that came stock with ur car ???

Im pretty sure in 1985 the only ho 305 L69 came in the iroc the z28 only had a lg4 or a lb9 tpi

 

iirc you have 150 hp stock w/ 240 lb/ft. He has 160 hp w/ 200 lb/ft. It may be closer than you think.....but its late and i forget what trannies you said you both had. But thats actual power levels there.

 

your where right about the power but he said its a z28
85 Z28 M5,A4 LG4 V8 9.5:1 5.0 (305) 155@4200 245@2000 4V 3.23 ---- 3.08 ----



3.4 liter/207 cid Horsepower 160 @ 4600 Torque (ft/lbs) 200 @ 3600

ur car will make max torque at 2000 rpms u should get him of the line and just keep on pulling.

 

you should win, lighter and more power

also is his stick?

 

If they both have a stick, the v6 MAY win.....although i expect that you should win

 

Well which is it, a 96 or a 3.4L? The 93-95 cars got the 3.4L, and the 96-02 cars got the 3.8L. The 3.8L has 40 more HP and a similar torque increase. You'll take the 3.4L easy, but the 3.8L might take you.

 

Was the 3.8 the standard option in '96? I thought that was kind of the crossover year with most of them getting the 3.4L but some getting the 3.8L...or was the crossover year '95? I thought it was '96..

 

yeah he deff loose to the newer v6... Didnt they come 190hp or 200?

 

The crossover year was '95 and you could get either the 3.4 or 3.8 for that model year only.

Pre '95 = 3.4
Post '95 = 3.8
'95 = Both engines

The 3.8's have 200hp and can run low to mid 15's stock. I have seen some run 12's with spray.

 

The 3.8L in 95 was available with the California emissions package only. So VERY few 95 V6 cars had the 3.8L.

And only a very well driven 3.8L M5 is a low-mid 15 second car. The autos are usually a half second slower.

 

If it's a 3.4 it's a higher 16 second car. If it's a 3.8 it's a mid 15 second car. I wouldn't worry about the 3.4 in a 4thgen, the car is WAYY too heavy to make good times with that motor. Stick it in a lighter car though and....well you never know. I seen a few Mazda Miatas with 3.4L V6 swaps they turn low 13's or high 12's...freaking amazing for 160 hp/200 ft/lbs

 

Not with that pushrod 3.4L they didn't. That's impossible! 13s might be possible with the DOHC 3.4L though.

 

Dude, you will waste him. Trust on this one. We have plenty of 3.4L's in out club and mufflers and such are still slow. The 3.8L is a lot faster, the 3.4L is no biggie. One of our guys is building a 3.4L with heads, cams and such, even then you would have a good chance. Waste him already.

 

If it's a 96, it has the 3.8L and will probably start passing you around 50mph. If it indeed does have the 3.4L for some strange reason, you'll win. My buddy and I raced when I had a '94 with a 3.4L and he has a '85 T/A bone stock except K&N and no exhuast from the cat back....me with only my flowblocker and ebay-style CAI. He owned me, from a roll and a dig. Both cars were autos and everytime they shifted, he would gain about a car on me. Just a little food for thought.

 

Ahh, yes. The "good ol' days" of the raspy Flowmaster V6.

 

If he has an L69 (G says he does) then he has 190hp and 240 ft-lbs. He should also have a 5-speen manual and 3.73 gears.

190hp doesn't sound like much, but its a pretty potent engine. That engine likes to rev, and the trans and gears let it do that.

 

L69's make power peak at 4800 rpm. Not exactly revving but 3.73's would work good for that and be shifting at like 5300 rpm.

 

if he does not have a lg4 then he des not have the stock motor.




85 Z28 M5,A4 LG4 V8 9.5:1 5.0 (305) 155@4200 245@2000 4V 3.23 ---- 3.08 ----
85 Z28 A4 LB9 V8 9.5:1 5.0 (305) 215@4400 275@3200 TPI ---- ---- 3.23 ----
85 IROC M5,A4 LG4 V8 9.5:1 5.0 (305) 155@4200 245@2000 4V 3.23 ---- 3.23 ----
85 IROC M5 L69 V8 9.5:1 5.0 (305) 190@4800 240@3200 4VHO 3.73 ---- ---- ----
85 IROC A4 LB9 V8 9.5:1 5.0 (305) 215@4400 275@3200 TPI ---- ---- 3.23 3.42



as you can see hte only h.o 305 came in a iroc. as while as the only L69 witch is the 305 h.o

the hole time i was under the impression your car had the factory motor i wish you would had said i swap it for a h.o 305 L69.


i still think u will win.

 

F*ck you HO!! My 3.4L just lost because I didn't have traction with my mad torque yo'. You're just lucky I didn't have a 3 foot wing to add downforce so I could beat you. And it would have been all over if I had NAWSSSSSSSSSSS!!!

Seriously though, we have to race my new L98 against yours...then we'll see. Bwahahaha.

 

LOL why the hell did GM switch to the 3.4 ?

You have a lighter car, better engine, gesrs dont know but still ..

My money is on the V8

 

Bigger motor for a bigger car. The 3.1 in a 4th gen would have become a modern iron duke.

 

Yup, the LHO was a funny motor - I had one in my '89 Grand Prix. That car wasn't very light either, but it had a good Cd. I always wanted to toss in a 3.4 DOHC motor in it... Except those motors (vin code X, right?) if they needed work, were a terror to work on, or so I've heard. I can see the need for more displacement for hte base motor when the 4th gen came out. My friend had a '95 with a 3.4, it seemed really sluggish - but then again, his motor was jacked up and knocked terribly, and the body lines were slightly crooked, ect... My L98 would've ate that car up without even trying. Heck, my WIFE'S car ('96 GP) could've beat him...

 

I meant going to a 3.4 from a 3.8 .. makes no sense ..

 

if its the 3.4 you'll smoke him, if its the 3.8 he might have you

 

 

Ah I gottcha. But yes GM went from the 3.4 to the 3.8. Or am I missing something still?

 

i dont know, but bigger is better in my opinion!!

 

my bad, they went from the 3.4 to the 3.8 ..

 

i know its not much of an improvement but

There is no replacement for Displacement.....

even if it is just .4 of a liter...LOL

 

Hell ya dude, .4 liter is alot more than 0 liters