89 IROC-Z vs Mustang 4.6
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89 IROC-Z vs Mustang 4.6
well the LB9 is officially slow becuase the non PI 4.6 beat the 89 Iroc-z 305 tpi tonight but the 46 has a new rear with 373 gears and a 5 speed and a full exhaust. Does this mean the 89 runs a low 15 he barley beat me. And i think hes in the 15s maybe too or high 14's. LB9's are junk fellow thirdgen owners, im very dissapointed!!!!!!!
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its a 95 i would say and it dips out and i have a full exuast cam and a bunch of stuff its just junk cant beat the pony trash.
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It sounds like your car is in the mid 15's and his is in the low 15's. You just need a few mods. It is pretty easy to get a mid 14 second car out of any 305 3rd gen.
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Ok the 97 mustang has 3.73 gears, a catback, and an offroad x or h pipe. That is all.
The Iroc-z is a LB9 with full 3 inch exhaust and maybe a cam but i dont think if it had a cam, it would run on the stock tune. It also has all of the free mods.
The 4.6 had us by a good few car lenghts and he launched in second gear.
The Iroc-z is a LB9 with full 3 inch exhaust and maybe a cam but i dont think if it had a cam, it would run on the stock tune. It also has all of the free mods.
The 4.6 had us by a good few car lenghts and he launched in second gear.
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Re: 89 IROC-Z vs Mustang 4.6
Originally posted by wheelstandin87
well the LB9 is officially slow...
well the LB9 is officially slow...
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Originally posted by 90CamaroTBI
Ok the 97 mustang has 3.73 gears, a catback, and an offroad x or h pipe. That is all.
The Iroc-z is a LB9 with full 3 inch exhaust and maybe a cam but i dont think if it had a cam, it would run on the stock tune. It also has all of the free mods.
The 4.6 had us by a good few car lenghts and he launched in second gear.
Ok the 97 mustang has 3.73 gears, a catback, and an offroad x or h pipe. That is all.
The Iroc-z is a LB9 with full 3 inch exhaust and maybe a cam but i dont think if it had a cam, it would run on the stock tune. It also has all of the free mods.
The 4.6 had us by a good few car lenghts and he launched in second gear.
Here is a comparison, my dad tried this once in his NMRA Factory Stock car on a 225 street radial. He launched in 2nd (with 4.10s and a car set up for the track) and ran a 13.5. Next pass launching in first he went 12.8 letting off! Needless to say that 4.6 is a 16 second car or so launching in 2nd... Hes probably lying to you about that!
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I was riding in the Stang during one of the races and he did launch in second to prevent tire spin.
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I raced a '96-'98 4.6 Stang with my LO3 and I beat him. The 4.6 I raced was a stock automatic, however. Tough loss for your IROC.
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Originally posted by 90CamaroTBI
I was riding in the Stang during one of the races and he did launch in second to prevent tire spin.
I was riding in the Stang during one of the races and he did launch in second to prevent tire spin.
His 305 might need a tune up if thats the case!
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The problem is that the 305 runs really good. I have no clue what happened because tire spin aint too much out an issue after your out of the hole. It is rediculous because launching in first in the mustang with some very sticky low profile tires, it will just blow the tires right off the car. I dont seem to get why a non-p.i. 4.6 can even do anything im describing.
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yup well im selling all my thirdgens lol to buy more thirdgens maybe the next batch will be faster.
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Originally posted by 90CamaroTBI
The problem is that the 305 runs really good. I have no clue what happened because tire spin aint too much out an issue after your out of the hole. It is rediculous because launching in first in the mustang with some very sticky low profile tires, it will just blow the tires right off the car. I dont seem to get why a non-p.i. 4.6 can even do anything im describing.
The problem is that the 305 runs really good. I have no clue what happened because tire spin aint too much out an issue after your out of the hole. It is rediculous because launching in first in the mustang with some very sticky low profile tires, it will just blow the tires right off the car. I dont seem to get why a non-p.i. 4.6 can even do anything im describing.
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Originally posted by wheelstandin87
yup well im selling all my thirdgens lol to buy more thirdgens maybe the next batch will be faster.
yup well im selling all my thirdgens lol to buy more thirdgens maybe the next batch will be faster.
Don't do that. Take your car to a track to get an idea of what it really runs, and go from there. An LB9/5 Speed car has a lot of potential, and can go 13s without too much $$$ or effort. But before you start tuning that thing better, you need an idea of what it really runs, so take it to a track.
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lol
Don't do that. Take your car to a track to get an idea of what it really runs, and go from there. An LB9/5 Speed car has a lot of potential, and can go 13s without too much $$$ or effort. But before you start tuning that thing better, you need an idea of what it really runs, so take it to a track.
lol
Don't do that. Take your car to a track to get an idea of what it really runs, and go from there. An LB9/5 Speed car has a lot of potential, and can go 13s without too much $$$ or effort. But before you start tuning that thing better, you need an idea of what it really runs, so take it to a track.
But umm yeah, the LB9 th700r4 car is slow as ****.. you have bad gearing, a wide spread transmission and 190hp
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The lb9 isn't as bad as some people say,I have taken out a few 4.6's.I even beat an l98 iroc a couple weeks ago and he atleast has exhaust.A lot of it depends on the tune,plugs/wires,tps setting,timing,etc...I am sure mine is a 14 sec. lb9.It sounds to me like there may be more mods onthe mustang than you were lead to believe.
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I looked over the Mustang pretty good, there is nothing he didnt say there was. What do you think that a 97 GT would run with catback, offroad H or X, and 3.73 gears?
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Originally posted by 90CamaroTBI
I looked over the Mustang pretty good, there is nothing he didnt say there was. What do you think that a 97 GT would run with catback, offroad H or X, and 3.73 gears?
I looked over the Mustang pretty good, there is nothing he didnt say there was. What do you think that a 97 GT would run with catback, offroad H or X, and 3.73 gears?
14.8-15.0 if its in tune.
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With a good driver mid 14s...
A kid I raced with a few times had a FREAK 96 or 97 GT that had exhaust, all the bolt ons (pulleys, TB, maf etc...) stock manifolds, 4.10s and weight removed, and one time went 13.3! The car was in the 13.6-13.8 range for the most part at well under 100 mph (96 maybe) on a slick!
A kid I raced with a few times had a FREAK 96 or 97 GT that had exhaust, all the bolt ons (pulleys, TB, maf etc...) stock manifolds, 4.10s and weight removed, and one time went 13.3! The car was in the 13.6-13.8 range for the most part at well under 100 mph (96 maybe) on a slick!
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Originally posted by 25thmustang
With a good driver mid 14s...
A kid I raced with a few times had a FREAK 96 or 97 GT that had exhaust, all the bolt ons (pulleys, TB, maf etc...) stock manifolds, 4.10s and weight removed, and one time went 13.3! The car was in the 13.6-13.8 range for the most part at well under 100 mph (96 maybe) on a slick!
With a good driver mid 14s...
A kid I raced with a few times had a FREAK 96 or 97 GT that had exhaust, all the bolt ons (pulleys, TB, maf etc...) stock manifolds, 4.10s and weight removed, and one time went 13.3! The car was in the 13.6-13.8 range for the most part at well under 100 mph (96 maybe) on a slick!
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Oh come on guys the ol LB9 is not that bad, they just need a few bolt ons to run good. I can beat 4.6s so bad in mine that I can't count the carlengths. They think they have me in the bag when I tell them I have a 305, then they get one heck of a suprise.
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Originally posted by 89IrocZ350TPI
Could have been a Cobra with GT badges lol. Be a good sleeper trick.
Could have been a Cobra with GT badges lol. Be a good sleeper trick.
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I dont think the LB9 is that bad.....well it could be alot better but it gets me by until i can afford a 03/04 Cobra atleast
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Well now that I think of it, the LB9 that we raced in has posi in it, so this means that it has what rear end and gears?
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Originally posted by 90CamaroTBI
Well now that I think of it, the LB9 that we raced in has posi in it, so this means that it has what rear end and gears?
Well now that I think of it, the LB9 that we raced in has posi in it, so this means that it has what rear end and gears?
Go to the tech board, they got everything.
3.23s I would think...
I have an '87 LB9 with exhaust, cai, tuning and you're normal tune up parts. I've raced countless mustangs, imports and even a few L98 GTAs and I've won and lost a few. Against an L98 GTA, I beat him by a few cars. I suspect his car was running really badly but a win none the less. I raced a late 80s GT/5spd from a light once. He had exhaust, all I could really make out besides his cobra rims. We were neck and neck off the line as we both spun a little. But once we reached the end of the intersection I was pulling away from him pretty easily. I have an auto as well with 3.23 posi out back. These motors have potential yes, but I still believe it's not worth building when a 350 can take the same parts and make more power. I can understand however, if you are on a budget as I was back then. My new 355 should handle these cars with ease
I have an '87 LB9 with exhaust, cai, tuning and you're normal tune up parts. I've raced countless mustangs, imports and even a few L98 GTAs and I've won and lost a few. Against an L98 GTA, I beat him by a few cars. I suspect his car was running really badly but a win none the less. I raced a late 80s GT/5spd from a light once. He had exhaust, all I could really make out besides his cobra rims. We were neck and neck off the line as we both spun a little. But once we reached the end of the intersection I was pulling away from him pretty easily. I have an auto as well with 3.23 posi out back. These motors have potential yes, but I still believe it's not worth building when a 350 can take the same parts and make more power. I can understand however, if you are on a budget as I was back then. My new 355 should handle these cars with ease
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well we opened up the throttle body of the LB9 and there was oil everywhere so im sure this is unhealthy for the car, wouldnt you say? Plus my filters are clogged to korea and back and i am thinking about getting some k&n's and doing a complete tune up and maybe it will break in to the low 15's or high 14's right?
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Friends 98 Mustang GT, 4.6 with a PI Intake Manifold on NPI heads, dual 2in to Flowmaster 40's, CAI, stock 3.08 gears, 14.3's time and time again with NO tune; .53 jet spraying dry through the MAF, best of 13.5. You would be under that hood forever finding that nitrous (we're sneaky
). My 350 TPI runs a 14.0 flat off spray and I have alot more wheel spin to deal with (2.3 60 foots). If your friend's taking off in second that's flat amazing or your car is in serious need of some service, this should be a close race. BTW there's no reason an LB9 should be under low 14's with the right combination of parts, don't give up on it just rethink your mods.
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Originally posted by wheelstandin87
.... opened up the throttle body of the LB9 and there was oil everywhere .... Plus my filters are clogged to korea and back ....
.... opened up the throttle body of the LB9 and there was oil everywhere .... Plus my filters are clogged to korea and back ....
Don't be cheap!
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i have an 84 Z and have a 4.6 i want to run but i think i have a chance...hopefully.
Well Tuned L69?
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Originally Posted by 1MeanZ
Oh come on guys the ol LB9 is not that bad, they just need a few bolt ons to run good. I can beat 4.6s so bad in mine that I can't count the carlengths. They think they have me in the bag when I tell them I have a 305, then they get one heck of a suprise.

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Well Tuned L69?
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1MeanZ, your signature is like the greatest thing in the world. Having the numbers "305" surrounded with burnout smileys is just freakin awesome. I laugh everytime I see it. 
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One with a good stock tune (and of course the 5 speed, if it's an L69) will run even with the 85 auto LB9s, which ran about 15 flat. It wouldn't neccesarily need that good of a tune.

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One with a good stock tune (and of course the 5 speed, if it's an L69) will run even with the 85 auto LB9s, which ran about 15 flat. It wouldn't neccesarily need that good of a tune.
None the less he can take out the 1995 4.6L..
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Originally Posted by Mcdamit
None the less he can take out the 1995 4.6L..
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Originally Posted by wheelstandin87
well we opened up the throttle body of the LB9 and there was oil everywhere so im sure this is unhealthy for the car, wouldnt you say? Plus my filters are clogged to korea and back and i am thinking about getting some k&n's and doing a complete tune up and maybe it will break in to the low 15's or high 14's right?
Originally Posted by 90CamaroTBI
Well now that I think of it, the LB9 that we raced in has posi in it, so this means that it has what rear end and gears?
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Oh I'm not dissing the 305, I just love it because of how everyone around here thinks the 305 is the worst thing in the universe, and the fact that he put it in there like that is hilarious because of how bad of a reputation the 305 has. I love it.
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Originally Posted by 89IrocZ350TPI
The 305's got a bad rep beacuse of the lg4 and l03 cars. No one really wants a car that stands for performance running low 16's. But those engines respond very good to mods ill give them that.
and the auto lb9's!
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Originally Posted by 89IrocZ350TPI
The 305's got a bad rep beacuse of the lg4 and l03 cars. No one really wants a car that stands for performance running low 16's. But those engines respond very good to mods ill give them that.
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None the less he can take out the 1995 4.6L..
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