Help: Leak coming from speedometer cable at manual transmission
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Help: Leak coming from speedometer cable at manual transmission
I bet someone can answer this queston pretty easily. I just wanted to have an answer before tearing things apart. I recently acquired an 84 Trans Am with the 305 HO, 5 speed manual. Looking back at receipts from the original owner, the following seemed to happen often. It looks like tranny fluid is leaking out from where the speedometer cable attaches to the tranny. Is there some sort of seal that can be replaced if I unscrew the cable (like an o-ring or a washer)? If so, where can I get a replacement? Anything I should be aware of while tearing into this? Thanks in advance.
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Re: Help: Leak coming from speedometer cable at manual transmission
Wow...no takers? I thought this one would be quick and easy to answer.
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http://www.transmissioncenter.net/sp...____va.htm#350
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Re: Help: Leak coming from speedometer cable at manual transmission
Check the thumbnail in post #1 of the following link:
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tran...ve-driven.html
I failed to do as recommended above, and the leak started not long after. I'll purchase a new sleeve and try again.
JamesC
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/tran...ve-driven.html
I failed to do as recommended above, and the leak started not long after. I'll purchase a new sleeve and try again.
JamesC
Last edited by JamesC; Sep 6, 2009 at 05:51 PM. Reason: Ignorant slob incapable of foresight
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Re: Help: Leak coming from speedometer cable at manual transmission
I'm not sure what you mean by the "sleeve." Does the "sleeve" disconnect from the cable/housing? I figured the only replaceable part without replacing the whole cable assembly was a seal. Isn't there a "seal" that fits inside the part that screws onto the transmission?
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Re: Help: Leak coming from speedometer cable at manual transmission
Unscrew the cable at the trans, remove the single bolt and retainer which holds the sleeve in the tail shaft and gently pry it out. Swapping in a new sleeve requires less time than jacking the car up.
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Sorry.........bad post
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Re: Help: Leak coming from speedometer cable at manual transmission
I've got more information that has got me stumped. I removed the cable from the sleeve this afternoon. The leak is coming out of the cable, not out of the sleeve. I didn't think that there would be fluid inside the cable. I thought there might be some grease inside of there, but it is leaking red fluid at a rate of about one drip per minute. Any ideas? If it all leaks out, will the cable seize up? It seems like I will need a new cable?
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Re: Help: Leak coming from speedometer cable at manual transmission
I removed the cable from the sleeve this afternoon. The leak is coming out of the cable, not out of the sleeve. I thought there might be some grease inside of there, but it is leaking red fluid at a rate of about one drip per minute. Any ideas? If it all leaks out, will the cable seize up? It seems like I will need a new cable?
https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/inte...eedo-woes.html
BTW, you should probably check trans fluid level; who knows how much you've lost--or when the fluid was last changed.
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Re: Help: Leak coming from speedometer cable at manual transmission
here is a picture t
2WD - 700R4 Speedometer Gears (also fits non-Chevy TH350)hat may help.............

2WD - 700R4 Speedometer Gears (also fits non-Chevy TH350)hat may help.............
Re: Help: Leak coming from speedometer cable at manual transmission
Speedo Gear Housing / Sleeve for T5:

Comes with both seals.
Also available on eBay as of now, July 2010, for $12 shipped.

Comes with both seals.
Also available on eBay as of now, July 2010, for $12 shipped.
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Re: Help: Leak coming from speedometer cable at manual transmission
just joined and saw this thread from 2010, having a similar leaking problem with an 86 Camaro with automatic trans, does this hold true for automatic trans also? thanks for the help.
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Yes. The parts are different shapes & sizes but the principle is the same.
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That would probably help.
Should be a 700-R4.
Should be a 700-R4.
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Yeah I had missed the 86 Camaro part somehow. I edited it later.
There was only 1 option for the auto trans in that car. Odds are probably 200,000 to 1 that it's what's still there.
As far as actually ID'ing the trans though, you do that by looking at the pan... the shape, count the bolts, etc. Then Google "transmission identification" and go to Images. You'll see what I mean.
There was only 1 option for the auto trans in that car. Odds are probably 200,000 to 1 that it's what's still there.
As far as actually ID'ing the trans though, you do that by looking at the pan... the shape, count the bolts, etc. Then Google "transmission identification" and go to Images. You'll see what I mean.
Re: Help: Leak coming from speedometer cable at manual transmission
still checing if its a 700R4 and i see 41 and 42 tooth gears, question, does 1 tooth matter much? Also the gears seem to come in a variety of colors, does that matter also?
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1 tooth out of 41 is a shade under a 2½% change. So, about 1 mph change at 40 mph, 1½ at 60 mph, 2½ at 100 mph, etc. Whether that would be an error or a correction would depend on how accurate it is now.
The colors are the way they're identified. Each tooth count is a different color. Beats the crap out of having to count them.
You'll also find there's 2 "series" of them; ones with more teeth are smaller diameter. The housing is different for each "series", to space them differently from the drive gear on the trans output shaft.
Best to match new ones to your old ones exactly unless you know for sure you need to make a change such as if you had changed rear end gears or tire size.
The colors are the way they're identified. Each tooth count is a different color. Beats the crap out of having to count them.
You'll also find there's 2 "series" of them; ones with more teeth are smaller diameter. The housing is different for each "series", to space them differently from the drive gear on the trans output shaft.
Best to match new ones to your old ones exactly unless you know for sure you need to make a change such as if you had changed rear end gears or tire size.
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