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Old Sep 11, 2001 | 06:28 PM
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How much would you notice this?

How much would you notice from some under drive pullies?
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Old Sep 11, 2001 | 06:30 PM
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well since all you should use is the crank pully maybe 10 ponies...
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Old Sep 12, 2001 | 08:46 PM
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I just put them in. I notice more in the upper rpm. I also put in an Accel 300+ ignition. And it was a noticable change.
Also i went and got a belt that was 10cm shorter. the part # is Dayco #5060680 and they were Jet Pulley's

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Old Sep 13, 2001 | 11:00 AM
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Hey, they dont make pullies for non serpentine systems? IE, my 85 camaro?

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Old Sep 13, 2001 | 11:52 AM
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What otehr mods were you considering? If you don't have an exhaust save the cash for that, or save it for a cam... I would recommend to anyone to add pulleys, and a chip after you do some more potent mods..
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Old Sep 13, 2001 | 01:56 PM
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Old Sep 13, 2001 | 07:46 PM
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Brian I plan on getting a cam first anyways and I agree with you 100%. I think the first mod should be an exhaust then go straight to the motor, dont waste time and money on bolt ons. IMO
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Old Sep 13, 2001 | 07:58 PM
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I always said that the first mods should always get your car in full tune. Fix all vac lines. Replace all ignition components, emmision valves, blah blah. Change fluids and clean out that freakin TB!!!!

The mod I noticed most was the chip. Although I put it in at the same time as the MSD. I have a full cat back exhaust and it did slightly increase freeway get up.

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Old Sep 18, 2001 | 02:18 AM
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Hey AntiVTEC, your Kill List is very respectable for a 17 second car.
2000 3.8 5 speed- BS
2000 v6 accord- BS
vr6 Jetta- BS
any 350- BS

Do you v6 dudes really beleive this, I know I don't. I would love to run you for money on the street AntiVTEC, you will have plenty of time to look back on your past kills during your 17 second run. And I'm not even a v8 guy.

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Old Sep 18, 2001 | 04:06 AM
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I've got a video of me losing to a Type-R integra by only a car length to 75 ish if you guys wanna see. Type-Rs are good for low 15's.

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Old Sep 18, 2001 | 08:34 AM
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I agreee the first thing should be a full tune up, but mods that i have seen that are not needed off the bat cause they do so little are:

1. Pulleys
2. Chip

The exhaust will give you a nice sound and with the age of our cars free up more power than pulleys. Plus it does not strain the engine and can offer better gas mileage. Just why waste the money on a chip, which I did years ago when you can get hte cam for the same price and see and feel a major difference.
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Old Sep 18, 2001 | 08:39 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Violate 3.8:
Hey AntiVTEC, your Kill List is very respectable for a 17 second car.
2000 3.8 5 speed- BS
2000 v6 accord- BS
vr6 Jetta- BS
any 350- BS

Do you v6 dudes really beleive this, I know I don't. I would love to run you for money on the street AntiVTEC, you will have plenty of time to look back on your past kills during your 17 second run. And I'm not even a v8 guy.

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WOW, a V6 guy can be a troll too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


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Old Sep 18, 2001 | 09:01 AM
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Are there any smaller crank pulleys from other cars that will work for the earlier models?

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Old Sep 18, 2001 | 04:55 PM
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I hope I'm not a troll, because I dont know what it is.

About the pullies, I was looking at some made for pre 86 305's and the mounting locations look very similar to our non-serpentine belt systems. Maybe it could be adapted and all you gotta do is find a belt the correct size.
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Old Sep 18, 2001 | 07:46 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by AntiVTEC:
I've got a video of me losing to a Type-R integra by only a car length to 75 ish if you guys wanna see. Type-Rs are good for low 15's.</font>
Hey AntiVTEC, I raced a high 14 second '98 Mustang GT, and was pulling what was left of a car-length @95. So does that mean I have a high 14 or low 15 second car. NO!!!! The best I could muster at the track was a 15.96 @86. I'm sick of people saying that they beat a 16 second car, so that means they have a 15 second car, etc. etc. If you want to lose to a high 15 second car, make the drive up to MN biaaaaaatch.
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Old Sep 18, 2001 | 08:46 PM
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Haha, so you're telling me your car takes an extra second to cross the finish line after a high 14 second GT mustang when you're only a few feet behind? Do the math homeboy:

At the end of the strip, the GT is doin about 140 feet per second. According to the run that you could muster up, you're doin about 126 feet per second. At that instant of the crossing line (or in this case the 95 MPH), you'd be about 14 feet behind him (he had a car on you right? or what was left of it).

Lets say, for the rest of the 14 feet left over, you we're still traveling 126 feet per second (because in reality you would still be accelerating hopefully). It would only take you a little over a tenth of a second to cover that 14 feet (14 feet/126 feet/sec).

So, either that GT Mustang you raced to 95 MPH and only have a car on you, ran a 15.7 or you can't drive for sh*t at the track. Which one do you choose?

Payce.

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Mods: Hpertech chip and powerstat, MSD 6A-L, Crane fireball coil, Accel Cap and Rotor, Dynomax hi-flow cat and catback system with a dynomax magnum race bullet muffler on the i-pipe, K&N filterchargers, Gutted Air Boxes, 8mm Wires, Eibach Sportlines and Tokiko springs/shocks setup, Global west sub frames, Suspension techniqs front and rear sway bars, and good ole 88 IROC wheels with Kumo Ecstas on em!
"It's not the ricers, it's those damn V8's!"

Wins: 2000 V6 Accord, 69 302 Mustang, 2000 Auto VR6 Jetta, 89 Toyota MR2, 90 Civic Si, 76 350 Camaro, 2000 3.8 5-speed Camaro, ~68 Chevelle 350, 92 CRX Si.

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