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05-16-2021, 02:17 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,819
Posted By KMK454

Re: Mecum third gen prices....

Yes, your car should go for big bucks, but sales seem so wishy-washy and dependent upon factors external to the car. If your IROC rolls through Mecum, BaT, etc. during the right time window, you...
05-15-2021, 11:03 PM
Replies: 64
Views: 4,819
Posted By KMK454

Re: Mecum third gen prices....

I agree completely on the dark red over bright red... no thanks.

BUT...

There are a lot of thirdgen enthusiasts out there that view hardtops as a FEATURE, not a problem. Same with leather and...
04-29-2021, 07:41 AM
Replies: 13
Views: 987
Posted By KMK454

Re: 1983 Z-28 GAA CLASSIC CAR AUCTION

Average ones, no, not at all. But ones as mint as Scott's pace car or the one in the original post, easily.
04-26-2021, 12:46 PM
Replies: 13
Views: 987
Posted By KMK454

Re: 1983 Z-28 GAA CLASSIC CAR AUCTION

Your 82 is awesome and I think that's a very fair asking price especially as it's a 4-speed, but just a hunch - Gen X / older Millennials who are nostalgic for thirdgens never really got into the...
04-05-2021, 03:28 PM
Replies: 19
Views: 8,721
Posted By KMK454

Re: 1987 trans am LB9 305 TPI 0-60 & 1/4 Mile

I've never run the 1/4 in anger or timed a 0-60, but if I had to guess based on reading, documents that came with the car, and feel versus the many other cars I've driven, my 91 B4C T5 LB9 is...
03-29-2021, 09:36 AM
Replies: 20
Views: 1,348
Posted By KMK454

Re: 1987 IROC sells for $42,900

For a lot of thirdgen people, a hardtop is not a bug, but a feature.
01-25-2021, 11:54 PM
Replies: 31
Views: 1,529
Posted By KMK454

Re: '91 vs. '92 Driving Experience

I'll second ev305tpi!

I got some time in his 91 and 92 1LEs, both in mint condition (6-8k miles). It's rare to get a chance to experience comparable cars back to back these days. The 92 was...
12-09-2020, 07:42 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 3,209
Posted By KMK454

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat

Leonard, if you wait long enough, and if somebody with common sense works at GM, they'll make you on offer you can't refuse to put it in the heritage museum.
12-09-2020, 06:34 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 3,209
Posted By KMK454

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat

That's one. The only other I can think of is the blue IROC 1LE, also a super low mile car.
12-08-2020, 08:50 PM
Replies: 65
Views: 3,209
Posted By KMK454

Re: 440 mile iroc on bat

Notice how all these super low mile examples that were immediately parked have 2 pedals?
11-20-2020, 02:56 PM
Replies: 3
Views: 555
Posted By KMK454

Re: Question about 1990-1992 Camaro gauges

I believe some time in 1991, the colors changed to the orange. I have a 1991 that has the dark orange, but I've seen earlier build 1991s with the lighter yellow/white ones.
11-19-2020, 05:45 PM
Replies: 11
Views: 848
Posted By KMK454

Re: I am thinking of turning my B4C into a drag car

Condition is king when it comes to values, and if your B4C 1LE is properly restored and fully documented, it might not make financial sense to cut it up into a drag car. Hard to tell without any...
09-30-2020, 12:39 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 33,446
Posted By KMK454

Re: Most desirable year.

Yup. My 91 with 32k miles is pretty solid but the low mile 92 I got to drive was much more solid feeling. May not notice it as much if you're looking at high mile, beat up examples.
09-29-2020, 06:17 PM
Replies: 191
Views: 33,446
Posted By KMK454

Re: Most desirable year.

For Camaros, 89-92 are the most desirable years. They offer the best performance, the most desirable options, and come in the most popular configurations (IROC-Z, Z28, 1LE, R4U, B4C, L98, LB9/T5,...
09-01-2020, 12:54 PM
Replies: 16
Views: 1,107
Posted By KMK454

Re: 38,000 MILE 1992 CAMARO RS 1LE

I love it, but I'm a little bit biased with my 91 B4C T5 (also never seen service).

A red police package car... has to be rare. There was the purple haze one that popped up a while back, and I...
08-11-2020, 12:17 PM
Replies: 83
Views: 2,573
Posted By KMK454

Re: 3000 mile 87 IROC on BAT

I like the foxes, but I don't understand a world in which they go for huge money and thirdgens struggle to punch up.
08-10-2020, 08:03 PM
Replies: 83
Views: 2,573
Posted By KMK454

Re: 3000 mile 87 IROC on BAT

Yes, a good problem to have. Don't want to pay asking price? Then you get to keep your awesome car.
08-10-2020, 07:58 PM
Replies: 83
Views: 2,573
Posted By KMK454

Re: 3000 mile 87 IROC on BAT

Well done for the seller. But... if this car was a foxbody Mustang, it'd have gone for double. Weird, right?
08-10-2020, 03:13 PM
Replies: 83
Views: 2,573
Posted By KMK454

Re: 3000 mile 87 IROC on BAT

You're not "out over $4k" unless your car sells exactly at the BaT-requested reserve. What you're doing is accepting $4k more worth of risk, but if the car is good enough and the right audience is...
08-10-2020, 10:17 AM
Replies: 83
Views: 2,573
Posted By KMK454

Re: 3000 mile 87 IROC on BAT

What are the miles on your car?

They probably viewed that 23k mile $32k sale as an outlier, not the new norm. Keep in mind they have a lot of auction data on hand. I'd consider any thirdgen with...
08-10-2020, 10:10 AM
Replies: 83
Views: 2,573
Posted By KMK454

Re: 3000 mile 87 IROC on BAT

I'd like to see this car get big dollars because of what it would mean for thirdgens in general, but I just can't get excited about this car. Yeah, the condition is mint (assuming there isn't a...
07-27-2020, 09:15 AM
Replies: 19
Views: 1,142
Posted By KMK454

Re: Anyone catch the Chevrolet Dealer auction yesterday? A couple of Third Gens, like

Based on pictures, the IROC did seem strong, but I'm glad to see it. The RS price was crazy.

Is the Bel Air truly worth 100k, or is this a sign of things shifting for 50's cars?
07-23-2020, 01:40 PM
Replies: 18
Views: 1,327
Posted By KMK454

Re: New member/ 91 1LE

What hub did you use for the aftermarket wheel, and what did you do about the clockspring, clockspring cable, and airbag light?
07-15-2020, 12:10 PM
Replies: 5
Views: 572
Posted By KMK454

Re: Bunch of Players Challenge cars just hit the market

I was excited until I saw they appear to be cars that were never raced and none have liveries... still cool cars, though! And I bet most of them have the right transmission (T5).
07-14-2020, 02:24 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,191
Posted By KMK454

Re: 91 z28 1LE not sold at mecum. 3,300 miles

It's not an apples to apples comparison...

The 80's and 90's were the peak Japanese sports car era. The Civic Si, Gen II MR2, MkIV Supra, and FD RX7 are all the cream of the crop if you're into...
07-13-2020, 01:14 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,191
Posted By KMK454

Re: 91 z28 1LE not sold at mecum. 3,300 miles

Great car. Doesn't really "pop" for me, but it may be the photos and some of the dustiness on the car, doesn't look like it was cleaned (but no clay bar residue!). Needs a detail and better photos....
05-30-2020, 12:30 AM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,690
Posted By KMK454

Re: Brand New Pace Car

Thanks, makes sense, I wasn't aware production was that low. I wasn't old enough in 1989 to be attuned to the atmosphere on the TTA's release. But having followed thirdgens for a long time, the TTA...
05-29-2020, 06:21 PM
Replies: 35
Views: 1,690
Posted By KMK454

Re: Brand New Pace Car

It's fascinating to me how TTAs seem to have been saved at a much higher rate versus the average thirdgen. Was there some pervasive thought in the 80's that these were future collectibles?
05-21-2020, 03:45 PM
Replies: 668
Views: 65,321
Posted By KMK454

Re: 5 speed third gens for sale

I know of a 91 Camaro B4C T5, 31k miles, full documentation/history, that the owner would let go for $25k.
05-14-2020, 12:29 AM
Replies: 66
Views: 2,517
Posted By KMK454

Re: Why am I attracted to these faded paint, turds?

I refuse to believe the person that likes this car is also the same person who optioned out chazman's 89 DX3 IROC-Z. This account has clearly been hacked.
05-05-2020, 01:26 PM
Replies: 10
Views: 831
Posted By KMK454

Re: Camaro Pinstriping

Don't do it.
04-29-2020, 12:08 PM
Replies: 7
Views: 4,746
Posted By KMK454

Re: Hawk's 17" GTA & IROC Wheels - 285/40-17?

Silver wheels look great. I thought about that but ended up leaving mine black. Did you paint them?

Regarding suspension and tires...

Suspension is one of those areas where the whole is greater...
04-27-2020, 03:43 PM
Replies: 40
Views: 3,187
Posted By KMK454

Re: Extreme Low Option Camaro's and Firebirds

How were options tallied? For example, my car's window sticker only includes three options (B4C, T5, Radio Delete), but B4C of course comes with a lot of equipment. Did "options" always show up on a...
04-23-2020, 01:37 PM
Replies: 51
Views: 2,012
Posted By KMK454

Re: Another '85. Seems like a nice car for a fair price for a change.

Counter-intuitive reason behind this - weather. The daily driver thirdgens rot away very fast in the rust belt and northeast. In the southwest and west coast, the daily drivers are beat into the...
04-21-2020, 11:06 AM
Replies: 42
Views: 2,300
Posted By KMK454

Re: 13,185 MILE 1985 IROC-Z L69

The rear wiper is something I'd appreciate and love to have on a Berlinetta, but not on an IROC-Z. Interesting option.
04-20-2020, 01:39 PM
Replies: 42
Views: 2,300
Posted By KMK454

Re: 13,185 MILE 1985 IROC-Z L69

Been a rough 13k miles. On paper, sounds like a good car. Photos, not so much...
04-19-2020, 02:42 PM
Replies: 90
Views: 4,129
Posted By KMK454

Re: 3,134 ORIGINAL MILE 1985 Iroc. Thoughts on this car?

I tend to agree. If it's a thirdgen with a 305, it better have a T5. The novelty on this car, though, is the "time capsule" aspect and the 80's black and gold scheme. To maximize value there, the...
04-17-2020, 02:31 PM
Replies: 90
Views: 4,129
Posted By KMK454

Re: 3,134 ORIGINAL MILE 1985 Iroc. Thoughts on this car?

I think the mileage is legit. It just needs some detailing and TLC, as any car would, after 30+ years of not being used. I think appropriate valuation is in the mid-20s, as it's not a particularly...
04-14-2020, 08:35 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 5,424
Posted By KMK454

Re: 5,300 Mile 1988 IROC-Z, wrecked. What's it worth?

"Usable" in this context means they hold air and the weight of the car for show purposes, which they appear to do based on the photos. Those original tires are the final piece for an original show...
04-14-2020, 07:03 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 5,424
Posted By KMK454

Re: 5,300 Mile 1988 IROC-Z, wrecked. What's it worth?

Hilarious seeing people so down on this.

All the mice in the world could have thrown a party on that dash pad, but based on dagwood's pics it'd be an upgrade for over 90% of the remaining...
04-14-2020, 12:13 PM
Replies: 67
Views: 5,424
Posted By KMK454

Re: 5,300 Mile 1988 IROC-Z, wrecked. What's it worth?

Yup. $8500 is too high, but the guy doing a resto who needs that one part... this car probably has it. As long as it isn't a fender :)
04-14-2020, 10:23 AM
Replies: 67
Views: 5,424
Posted By KMK454

Re: 5,300 Mile 1988 IROC-Z, wrecked. What's it worth?

As a parts car sold as whole, it's worth maybe $1k to $2k. I do think it's a good buy at that price; there's well over $2k in parts value in the car. However, you'd have to do the disassembly, some...
04-09-2020, 12:26 PM
Replies: 668
Views: 65,321
Posted By KMK454

Re: 5 speed third gens for sale

1986, LG4, repaint... the low mileage is nice, but those three items make the $17k asking price absurd.

I do really like the car, though. It would make a great platform for a slightly modded...
04-08-2020, 03:55 PM
Replies: 22
Views: 1,991
Posted By KMK454

Re: 1984 Trans Am L69/T5 roller, a few questions.

I love that car, wish I had it for myself. I'd do an L98 with mild period correct mods (maybe dyno don headers and SLP runners if you can find them, maybe a cam or heads, but make sure it looks...
04-02-2020, 10:50 AM
Replies: 80
Views: 4,270
Posted By KMK454

Re: 84-Mile 1983 Trans Am Pace Car on Bringatrailer.com

I agree. When the market recovers, he could send it to auction and likely clear $20k. He'll have to sit on it for a bit though...
04-01-2020, 10:45 AM
Replies: 80
Views: 4,270
Posted By KMK454

Re: 84-Mile 1983 Trans Am Pace Car on Bringatrailer.com

In pre-L98 thirdgens, I see no reason to ever get an automatic. This 83 Trans Am is nice, but it's never a car I would buy to own - only to flip if I got it at a great price.

Even when the L98...
03-28-2020, 05:07 PM
Replies: 80
Views: 4,270
Posted By KMK454

Re: 84-Mile 1983 Trans Am Pace Car on Bringatrailer.com

Automatic transmission. I'd have parked it and forgotten about it too...
02-21-2020, 11:27 AM
Replies: 29
Views: 1,923
Posted By KMK454

Re: Super-low mileage IROC on Ebay -- only 104 miles!

Nice car, but it's such a shame how so many of these were automatic... or that the ZF-6 was never offered with the 350.



Maybe I'm reading it wrong, but the Bid History seems to reveal this as...
02-19-2020, 04:43 PM
Replies: 49
Views: 2,758
Posted By KMK454

Re: 83 MSE --------->

I really like this car minus the transmission.

I just posted a pic of the actual race car today.
https://www.instagram.com/p/B8wNf_8nHc3/
02-15-2020, 04:09 PM
Replies: 46
Views: 1,692
Posted By KMK454

Re: eBay '87 Formula. 52,000 miles, $9,900

Great candidate for a drivetrain swap. LSx/T56. Though my preference would be L98 with a built T5 or TKO (period correct!).
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