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Old 01-16-2019, 03:51 PM
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Harness fender pass through

who has modified the original harness bulkhead connector on the passenger inner fender area to allow the LS harness to pass through it to maintain a seal from the outside? I know someone here has had to have done this. Pics?
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Re: Harness fender pass through

I did... That sucker was fun to pull apart! I used silicone to fill it up like factory once I had the wires routed through and cut to length.
Sorry I have no pictures... And it's too cold and the car is back together for me to take any lol.
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So you gutted it and pulled your wires through? That makes sense. I ran my wiring without doing that so I may gut it, cut one side of it to slip it over the harness and fill it back up with silicone as you did.
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Re: Harness fender pass through

I have. Check out this post from by build thread:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/memb...ml#post6226945

I soaked the whole thing in gas overnight. Was very easy to remove the sealant and clean it up after that.
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Re: Harness fender pass through

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I have. Check out this post from by build thread:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/memb...ml#post6226945

I soaked the whole thing in gas overnight. Was very easy to remove the sealant and clean it up after that.
awesome, very helpful. Thanks!
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Re: Harness fender pass through

I also pulled a bulkhead and used it for my LS harness. It wasn't that hard to pick out the old sealant, just time consuming. There is a comb inside the connector to separate the wires a bit. I use "The right stuff" to fill it back in once I was done. I did have a leak though once I got on the road, the sealant around the wires isn't really an issue for the leak, since water isn't splashing onto it, but running down the sheet metal to the top of the bulkhead. I ran a bead of seam sealer on the sheet metal above it, in either chevron or a long straight bead at an angle, so the dripping water would naturally shed away from the connector. once I did that, the water stopped coming in the car. There is a foam seal around the bulkhead that is supposed to seal it to the body. Since it has been compressed in there for almost 25 years, it didn't like being disturbed. You could do the same as I did, or put silicon around the hole thing before you clip it into the body.
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Re: Harness fender pass through

i had an old harness so i just chopped all the wires on both sides and put it back in
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Re: Harness fender pass through

An ordinary heat gun softens up the potting material so that you can easily scrape it out with a screwdriver.

As as far as new potting material, read this,

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-...ml#post5834080

I have found a Tyco bulkhead connector that requires just a little cutting of the sheet metal for a little larger hole. It is quite expensive though by the time you buy the bulkhead and all the terminal pins and get a proper Deutsch crimp tool.
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Re: Harness fender pass through

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As as far as new potting material, read this,

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/ltx-...ml#post5834080
None of your Ellsworth links work there anymore
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Re: Harness fender pass through

The plastic part of the thirdgen fender/ kick panel pass through is two parts, I was able to just separate it leaving the potting material in place on the wires.

I extended the wires to the PCM buy grabbing a second harness from the junkyard so all the wires are the right color.

Then I just used house silicone to re pot it, I know not quite the same material but it should keep any exhaust and sound out of the car. I also zip tied the two houses back together since one of the tabs broke. I also added a screw top and bottom to hold it better.

Any of the wires for the thirdgen that I needed I just did new wires.

Though since I maintained the 4th gen fuse boxes and all the emission controls my wiring is a little different than most.

Once peice of advice that I would do differently. While you have the engine out re rout the AC/blower motor wires and vacuum lines from the gourmet behind the head to run with the rest of the PCM wires. It will save some space in that area that gets very crowded with heater core hoses etc. Also at least with certain mounting solutions the LS1 will be very close to the firewall.
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Re: Harness fender pass through

Originally Posted by scooter
None of your Ellsworth links work there anymore
Thanks, I updated the links. If it happens again just search for the product name that is in the link address. (that's all I did to find it)

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Re: Harness fender pass through

Couple pics I found after soaking in gas:

https://www.thirdgen.org/forums/memb...ml#post6124644
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Re: Harness fender pass through

I extended each wire to get it to pass through the original location. I also filled it with silicone after I took this picture.
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Re: Harness fender pass through

Thanks for all the info guys! I disassembled my factory bulkhead connector with a heat gun and some massaging. I am going to run my new LS harness through it as pictured above hopefully this week.
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