89IROCCVRT

could i beat a mitsubishi something er other with a turbo in it?? its an aftermarket turbo and its a crappy lookin car, 80s maybe early 90s car...the kid rides it around here like its hot sh** but i wanna show him what really is hot sh**...i gotta 89 iroc 305 tpi convt (dont forget convertible is heavier and 18" longer than a regular camaro) shes runnin good with 75,000 miles

phoenix305

thats a little vauge on the discription. but i would say if it is anything besides an a eclipse i am sure you will be fine.

nick418

Better description

ShiftyCapone

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Even if you achieve victory I wouldn't say you are hot stuff either with a 3600lb car powered by a 305. More info would be needed about your potential opponent.

Blu91Z28

If it's an Eclipse or 3000 GT, you'll probably lose.

89IROCCVRT

nono its nothing fancy hes got like a base mitsubishi, i just dont know the name of it cuz i really dont follow the import world..at all....so sorry for the lack of info

87F383

A Mitsubishi Starion? Very squarish like a daytona?

subliminal

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3600lbs?! my car is just under 3000

FLYNLOW92rs

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Not from the factory, there is no way a thirdgen with a V8 rolled off the assembly line sub-3,000lbs.......

ddn69

eclipse gsxs even in the early 90s had something like 200 horse. if its had any work done to it watch out for sure!

Nate

89IROCCVRT

next time i see the pos i'll takea look

ghettosmurf

eclipse, 3000gt, and starion will all rape you...

subliminal

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maybe a 3000gt but even then it will be close unless its the twin turbo vr4

89IROCCVRT

be bought the turbo off of ebay, used, for like 50 bucks, the car didn't even come with one to begin with so its not like it was anything special

89305RS

a guy that lived down the street slapped a turbo on a sundance and it ran a 14.8 W 6-8psi of boost so watch out.

ghettosmurf

oh well i was assuming it came as a turbo from the factory, if he just bought some turbo, odds are especially for 50 bucks that it ****...race em and find out. You'll proly win now that i think about it

MrDude_1

ugh... please, dont be a domstic *****.


1. just because it looks bad, doesnt mean its slow.

2. a 80s perhaps early 90s car? duuur, like a 3rdgen.. that also doesnt make it slow...

3. you KNOW its a aftermarket turbo, yet you talk **** when you have a fugging 305?!

4. a 89 iroc vert, while a nice looking cruiser, is also not hot ****.

5. the vert is NOT 18" longer.


your car is not badass, or even fast. there are FWD V6s and some stock turbo 4s that are faster. please dont be the dumb teenage kid that thinks hes MrBadass because its a V8 domestic.

why dont you take your ego, set it aside, and look at the kids car. most likely if it really is a aftermarket turbo car, its a DSM or somthing like that, and as long as the kid wasnt talking out of his *** about the turbo, you might learn somthing.

89IROCCVRT

ok tough guy,

it looks bad because he beats it and doesn't take care of it, i know the kid

i'm saying its old and he beats it like its nobodys business

305 isn't *** but it should be better than what he does to his car, he buys some turbo and just slaps it on, not worrying about reliability or safety or ANYTHING about his car

while my car may not be the nicest thing around here, it isn't a POS by any means

check this rpo code E72 and tell me what comes up

this kid knows nothing about cars, they were trying to tell me my fully modded 350 (which currently ran 12s) would lose to their stock, beat to hell SUVs

Hawk92z-TDZ

Race him and find out

subliminal

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Fear the 305.......Youd be quite suprised the potential 305s have if done right

camaro-mayhem

what the hell makes it so much longer

a lot of mitsu motors respond very well to turbos, wether they were designed to or not. just because it was cheap doesnt mean it wont help. a small turbo on a street car can be awesome, no lag and a quick round of boost can be good, even if it isnt perfect.

nmirocz

mmmm...no, i dont think i'll be fearing a 305 anytime soon

pasky

I've seen one hit 335 rwhp. . Not my cup o tea, i'd rather go bigger .

nmirocz

Yeah..note you said u seen ONE with that number...
It takes a lot of money and time to get a 305 to that number 335 HP... all it takes for sbc 350 is a bigger carb, cams and head and your your there and more. LS1's get that out of the box.

MrDude_1

is that a WHOLE 335? lmao..


and btw, no one ever streached 3rdgens from the factory.. nor were they a ASC thing. your car isnt 18" longer... and if you dont believe me, go measure it.

pasky

Yes I realize its not a lot, im just saying, you can get something out of them. I think we all know how they came stock, quit stating the obvious :P.

ljnowell

18" longer? Thats funny. As far as turbo car vs 305 vert. Well, I got my money on the turbo car.

89IROCCVRT

if it wasn't 18" longer why would they have that rpo code in there....just threw it in there for the hell of it

"haha lets throw in this rpo code for the hell of it....and lets say its because the car is made 18" longer"

"yeah great idea"


i'm sure the GM engineers or whoever it was thought exactly that before they put that rpo code in there, just to confuse the hell outta someone

Stekman

What RPO is this.

Mrdude, don't you have a vert?

89IROCCVRT

e72

ljnowell

It does infact list it that way. I cant believe that would mean that, I have never once in my life even heard of that until you said that. The convertibles were all T-top cars that were modded. Where is this length added to? The rear fenders. Please post a pic. Really Fascinating.

89IROCCVRT

i mean it may be true that they're not 18" longer, but why the hell would they make that RPO code and put it in there if it wasn't true?

ljnowell

I dont know, unless it is referring to a specific object, or part, being 18 inches longer. I've just never seen one like that, thats all. Im gonan make a post in the history forum and see what they say about it.

ljnowell

OK got all the answers here

https://www.thirdgen.org/techbb2/sho...9&goto=newpost

Just check that out. Someone new the RPO ****s pretty good.

Xceleratemaro

lol damm this kid is ignorint.. i have seen some impressoive #s out of a 305 with money you can make any thing fast/

trans87

Those Mitsu's can be pretty quick. Especially the Eclipse GSX. Ask me how I know




My generation of DSM has 195 hp bone stock from the factory. The second generation of the Eclipses/Talons had 210 hp stock from the factory. These cars respond VERY well to mods and having AWD makes traction great with a 4500 rpm clutch dump

ghettosmurf

stock turbod DSM against ur 305 and u will get ponied...ask me how i know???




my g/fs car can beat mine...how sad is that ... oh well good luck man. Hopefully its aftermarket lol

sqzbox

My 88 form must be exceptional, I beat an eclipse through 2nd gear and backed out of it at 70mph because I didn't think he could catch up. All I have is a 3" cat back, open element, base timing at 6*, and manual shifted at 5000rpm. I've also got 8mm accel wires, split-fire plug's. I know a 3000 gt will wup my ***, but I don't think eclipes's are all that!

trans87

All depends on what Eclipse you raced. If you raced a GS then of course you should of won. Those cars are weak and the mid to late 90s ones had the Neon motor. Now if it was a GS-T or GSX then the driver either didn't know how to drive or it was an automatic. Those cars have stock 25-40 more hp than a stock LO3 and are lighter. Even with your mods you aren't touching the stock numbers of the turbo DSMs. I know my GSX is much quicker than my TA was when it was a 305. Now my TA as it sits now can murder my DSM I am not saying that the DSMs are the best thing in the world but they do deserve some respect. They aren't you average Honduh and can be very affordable performance cars. Plus shifting through an AWD turbocharged car is fun That's why you see a lot of V8 guys when they get an tuner car most of the time it's a DSM.

camaro-mayhem

lol. i still remember your post on dsmtalk or tuners whichever it was when you were asking about them. you never posted saying you got one tho anyways good choice on cars

trans87

Yea I post on both forums. I did post that I got one but on one of the forums I think they put the post with one of my previous posts. I went with a 1Gb since they seem to have the most potential stock and don't have the pop-up headlights. My car has the 6/4 combo being an early 1992 car. I am going to have some fun with this car. There is a huge difference driving this car and the TA. The TA is a beast enitrely of it's own compared to this car

ghettosmurf

i go on that site alot too...maybe ill see you on there!!

trans_am_ta_84

race that dude and find out i've raced a 2.0 turbo talon and had no problem smoking that thing but then again i don't have a 305 anymore. but a 305 can be a good perfomer my friend has an rs with a worked 305tbi and it's not too bad.

89IROCCVRT

i'll race him if i ever see him, i mostly am either weight lifting, working, or at my gfs so that doesn't leave me much time for looking for races..

DuronClocker

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LOL! You are a tough guy aren't you... "I don't have time to race, I'm either lifting weights of at my girlfriend's" blah blah blah. Nice excuse not to race.

Anyways, my buddy has a '93 Talon with the stock 2.0L NA and I beat the hell out of him through 2nd gear when he gave up. However, I know what those turbo DSMs can do. They are QUICK. It was actually one of the cars I was considering before I bought my TA. I probably will end up with one someday. The other car I was considering was a Nissan NX or 200SX SE-R. They aren't Hondas either, or anything like them. All the Nissan guys always make fun of the Hondas for having no torque, and most of the Nissan guys I know hate being called r!cers. My buddy is backing out of going to the track tomorrow. He's got a '92 Nissan NX2000 that should run close to my car in the 1/4, but mine is stock His car has headers, intake, full suspension, etc.

Anyways, I agree with whoever said something about this kid thinking he's really bad cuz he's got a V8. Those turbo DSMs are nothing to be laughed at. My cousin has a '97 TSi AWD running 11.3 at the track I love the looks of those cars too, and yes the 195HP stock rating of the 91-94 models is correct, and they weigh a lot less. I think the normal FWD turbo cars are like ~2800lbs and have 195HP. Having a stock turbo car makes it really easy to get quite a bit more power out of it really quickly as well..manual boost controllers are easy to make and can get to 225HP+ pretty easy.

trans87

Not to mention the stock shortblock can handle 300+ hp and the heads just need a little bit of port work to make them flow really nice. The 4G63T is an awesomely efficent motor. It has great flowing heads and very strong internals (6-bolt ones). Even the exhaust manifolds are great flowing with some mild port work. So basically stock you are getting awesome parts that just need some tweaking to get you going really fast. You can see why these cars are popular budget performance cars. My GSX just doesn't have the ***** out torque and sound my V8 TA does

camaro-mayhem

lol 6k clutch drop + awd = great. tho the sound is definetely lacking

z28kindaguy

He is lighter, turbo'd (for fifty bucks on ebay... comon now!) and if he has AWD you will get raped.

and please... get over yourself with lifting weights and being over at the gf's. Lame.